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re: Explosion at Marathon in Garyville
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:07 am to DuckManiak
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:07 am to DuckManiak
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Hopefully their start up procedures call for all personnel to clear out of the unit.
Likely the opposite. There’s a lot of field surveillance when starting up any unit.
Most if not all the contractors won't be in unit. Only essential personnel, which are plant operators. Plants don't want any more than necessary while bringing unit up, for this reason.
That's what I've seen in over 30 years experience as a contractor.
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Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:07 am to Geauxfore
These things seems to be happening a lot lately. Wasn’t there another one like a month or so ago?
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:12 am to Geauxfore
All those class action attorneys starting to advertise.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:15 am to gumpinmizzou
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These things seems to be happening a lot lately. Wasn’t there another one like a month or so ago?
Unfortunately, it's going to be more common across all industries.
More automation = reduction of head count. Then as the older generation retires with 30+ experience and training, all that's left is the revolving door operators/engineers who hop a fence for an extra $2/hr every three years.
Not to mention hiring unqualified personnel to check a box on the corporate agenda.
All the above, plus companies constantly switching software and procedure programs to save money, mean things get missed in implementation so you might have someone following a procedure that's missing a key step, but an operator with experience would remember. OR a TAR contractor hired for the lowest bid, who staffs people who don't know how to do the proper calibrations (bc any tech worth a damn eventually gets on at a site full time with benefits vs chasing 12 hr contract work around the area). We're entering a world where no one knows what the hell they're doing.
But this isn't really the thread to talk about that.
This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 10:39 am
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:15 am to zuluboudreaux
quote:LINK
Tregre said there was an explosion at the site. He said there are no fatalities or injuries. There is no off-site impact reported at this time, Tregre said.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:19 am to Athis
quote:good news
He said there are no fatalities or injuries
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:19 am to CypressTrout10
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Friend of mine who works nearby said a high pressure exchange valve blew
Edit: bad info. My B.
This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 10:26 am
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:19 am to gumpinmizzou
quote:
These things seems to be happening a lot lately.
Business is booming
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:20 am to DuckManiak
hydrocracker*
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:22 am to TigerTatorTots
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hydrocracker
Ahh thanks for the check. I got my info from our project engineer that’s in our control room right now. He’s kind of a dumb arse, I should have known better
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:29 am to Sgt_Lincoln_Osiris
You couldn’t have described this any more perfectly. I see it everyday. These companies and new think tank people in the industry don’t pay attention to the old saying of “it’s very expensive to be cheap in this industry”.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:40 am to Sgt_Lincoln_Osiris
You are correct, most new operators want a job that they just watch a computer and go outside to take a sample and open close a valve that they are told to do. But they have no clue what are what their doing. They do not want to learn the process either. So when you loose the older operators you loose a lot of knowledge.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:45 am to bootlegger
Im at work in Ponchatoula and didn’t hear or feel anything
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:50 am to Ba Ba Boooey
Very lucky nobody was hurt. That unit operates at high temp & pressures.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:50 am to Sgt_Lincoln_Osiris
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Not to mention hiring unqualified personnel to check a box on the corporate agenda.
One of the biggest issues at plants today.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:52 am to jerd
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So when you loose the older operators you loose a lot of knowledge.
Old operators don’t give a shite about training young guys. Sit in their retirement home unit, and talk about how clueless new operators are. Every plant, same scenario.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 11:22 am to DuckManiak
Any OTers inside or nearby? Fire still active or contained?
Posted on 2/21/22 at 12:05 pm to DuckManiak
quote:Perhaps this is your professional opinion based on scientific data BUT as a now retired plant shift supervisor with 33 total years experience what I EXPERIENCED was exactly the opposite. As my years passed by I found the younger incoming operators cared less and less about my info.
Old operators don’t give a shite about training young guys. Sit in their retirement home unit, and talk about how clueless new operators are. Every plant, same scenario.
I started that unit up as did my co-workers. I heard the same from them as time passed. I have no idea what generation they were. It didn't change over night from one to another. It just seemed to flow slowly in that direction.
Then we got a punkass superintendent that ran a large chunk of us startup operators off over a 2 year period of time. Wanna know what happened next?
They started calling some of us back on contract to work while they could get the new guys trained. Yeah, the clueless ones.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 12:10 pm to DuckManiak
Fake news
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