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re: Explain the private school thing in south LA
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:09 am to TigerNlc
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:09 am to TigerNlc
We can’t do anything right. We can’t even do the simple idea of suburbs right. Who in their right mind would choose to live in Prairieville/Zachary over The Woodlands or Alpharetta
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Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:09 am to biglego
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I think I'm most small towns, the public schools are used by the white kids
True in many areas, such as Vermilion Parish, where there is only one Catholic and/or private school in the whole parish: Vermilion Catholic HS in Abbeville.
Everything else/every other town is public HS: Delcambre, Erath, Abbeville high, Kaplan, Gueydan, North Vermilion.
ETA: a fair amount of blacks in the parish and in the same schools. Would like to see demographics and breakdowns of performance, as well as numbers of single parent households (adversely affects all races)
Some of these schools are actually high performing. Blue Ribbon awarded.
This post was edited on 7/14/18 at 12:14 am
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:10 am to OKTGR580
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Birmingham suburbs blow Br or Nola suburbs out the water. Hoover HS, Mountain brook etc. are all nice suburbs with good PUBLIC schools. Ascension or Livingston have anything similar?
Now you're getting it. The BR equivalents, if they existed, would be in Ascension, Livingston, and the schools like Baker, Central and Zachary which are in their own unique system.
The closest you are going to get to those kinds of schools are Dutchtown and St. Amant in Ascension. But those are much farther out than the Birmingham schools.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:12 am to OKTGR580
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Birmingham suburbs blow Br or Nola suburbs out the water. Hoover HS, Mountain brook etc. are all nice suburbs with good PUBLIC schools. Ascension or Livingston have anything similar?
My wife is from Birmingham. Their schools are shite too. You need to consider that most people that send their kids to private school in South LA (including me) don't live in the suburbs.
The big difference that I see is that the flight to the suburbs happened much later in LA. I can mostly speak for BR but most of the SBR schools were still decent in the mid/late 90s.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:12 am to Golfer
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And since we’re on the topic of St. Tammany, there are four Catholic High Schools in the same Parish as a good public system. Which goes back to my original point that the Catholic Schools are beyond a race or class mentality.
Of course.
Like I said earlier: I didn't really think about Catholic Schools when I read the OP.
Catholic and "private" are two completely different class of school with nothing in common as far as the motives for their origination
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:12 am to Golfer
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St. Tammany.
St Tammany is a nicer area than most in LA.. BUT it’s not a suburb of either metro br or NOLA metro. The suburbs we listed are all in the same metro as Birmingham. Tammany is sort of by itself. The private schools there are definitely smaller than they are in other parts of the state because Mandeville is mostly WHITE. They send their kids to the public schools.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:13 am to magildachunks
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Zachary was part of EBRPSS when I was there.
Yeah so was Central when I was there but we were too far out to experience the forced bussing effects like a school like Broadmoor or Tara did.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:14 am to OKTGR580
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because Mandeville is mostly WHITE. They send their kids to the public schools.
All I've gotten out of this thread is that all you see is race.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:14 am to OKTGR580
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Who in their right mind would choose to live in Prairieville/Zachary over The Woodlands or Alpharetta
Pretty much every friend of mine who moved to Houston after college hated it and moved back to Zachary/BR area first chance they got.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:14 am to Keys Open Doors
These threads have popped up many times before.
The next step in the discussion is “how do you fix it”.
The simple answer is, you can’t.
Who in their right mind would send their child to massively underperforming schools simply because they are public schools?
OKTGR, would you be the first?
Would you put your future child in a public school that had a 68% graduation rate to make a social statement?
Maybe you would move, but isn’t that basically the same thing as running away?
The next step in the discussion is “how do you fix it”.
The simple answer is, you can’t.
Who in their right mind would send their child to massively underperforming schools simply because they are public schools?
OKTGR, would you be the first?
Would you put your future child in a public school that had a 68% graduation rate to make a social statement?
Maybe you would move, but isn’t that basically the same thing as running away?
This post was edited on 7/14/18 at 12:16 am
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:15 am to fallguy_1978
It's the way BR is designed. My parents live in Baton Rouge city limits, yet they are farther from downtown than people living in Vestavia or Hoover are from downtown Birmingham.
In most other cities, you can have a 30-40 minute commute to downtown and still have really good public school options. It's not the case in BR or NOLA. The St. Tamany schools are fine, especially Fontainebleu and Mandeville, that is still a terrible commute if you work in the CBD.
In most other cities, you can have a 30-40 minute commute to downtown and still have really good public school options. It's not the case in BR or NOLA. The St. Tamany schools are fine, especially Fontainebleu and Mandeville, that is still a terrible commute if you work in the CBD.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:15 am to OKTGR580
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We can’t do anything right. We can’t even do the simple idea of suburbs right. Who in their right mind would choose to live in Prairieville/Zachary over The Woodlands or Alpharetta
I would too but unless you grew up here then you probably don’t understand why normal people stay here.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:16 am to G Vice
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ETA: a fair amount of blacks in the parish and in the same schools
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Delcambre, Erath, Abbeville high, Kaplan, Gueydan, North Vermilion
Would much rather my kids associate with the blacks than the cajuns.
Don't think I could live with myself if my kids grew up with that accent and colloquialisms.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:17 am to Keys Open Doors
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The St. Tamany schools are fine, especially Fontainebleu and Mandeville, that is still a terrible commute if you work in the CBD
I'd only live on the NS if I worked in the NS. Screw crossing the causeway twice per day
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:17 am to magildachunks
quote:Scruffy does not enjoy your insults.
Would much rather my kids associate with the blacks than the cajuns.
Don't think I could live with myself if my kids grew up with that accent and colloquialisms.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:17 am to Scruffy
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social statement?
It’s a tough one. But let’s reverse it, would you send them to a private catholic school just to make a social statement and fit in?? I’m sure tons of people do this. I do agree that there’s the generational thing and people go for that reason. But you are in denial if you think a lot of people don’t send their kids there for race reasons and for social status reasons..
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:17 am to OKTGR580
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BUT it’s not a suburb of either metro br or NOLA metro.
St. Tammany is a suburb of New Orleans.
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The private schools there are definitely smaller than they are in other parts of the state because Mandeville is mostly WHITE.
Hannan, SPS, SSA, and PJP2 have higher enrollment per capita to the Parish size than CHS, SJA, and SMHS.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:18 am to fallguy_1978
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Yeah so was Central when I was there but we were too far out to experience the forced bussing effects like a school like Broadmoor or Tara did.
We got a lot of Scotlandville bussers.
Never had a problem. The school staff made sure of that.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:18 am to Scruffy
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Would you put your future child in a public school that had a 68% graduation rate to make a social statement?
We are zoned for Tara which has like a 48% graduation rate
No thanks. I'll suck up my daughter's tuition for 6 more years.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:19 am to fallguy_1978
The commute from the north shore to NOLA is nothing. Try doing Metairie to BR. Or pretty much any commute from outside the loop into Houston.
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