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re: Explain the private school thing in south LA

Posted on 7/14/18 at 5:33 am to
Posted by Westwego Cocktail
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 7/14/18 at 5:33 am to
When the post started with "dont mean to step on anyone's toes", it actually means that
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
21259 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 5:34 am to
So what are some of the better public schools school districts around new orleans (outskirts)

Mandeville high
Destrehan
Hahnville

St Charles parish
St Tammy parish

I’m from north LA and recently moved down here and obligatory private schools are about sports and athletics for a lot with academics the front runner at some.....
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
11198 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 6:04 am to
Nothing like someone starting a thread, asking a question, with preconceived answers but then keep asking the same question in different ways to get the answer you finally wanted just so you can claim racism.

Also, I lived in Magnolia Woods(Nice middle class neighbor hood) when my two kids were in elementary/middle/high school. So you tell me if you had the money for private school you would still send your kids to Kenilworth middle and McKinley high? Hell no you wouldn’t.
It’s not my fault those public schools have a horrible learning environment. I hate paying for private school but I also feel there is no choice in EBR and an investment into their future.
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 6:45 am
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
22559 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 6:06 am to
Get a clue bro
Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 6:08 am to
Public schools in south loosaiana have become nothing more than extreme minimum security prison.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33900 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 6:08 am to
Can we ban this guy? Seriously. What a loser. Starts a thread acting innocent but ends up using it to push his stupid poli board ideals. Go back to Oklahoma we don’t want you here
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
16072 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 6:14 am to
I grew up in Jefferson Parish, always went to public schools, many of my friends went to private Catholic schools, we are talking 60s and 70s, pre-integration. Dad is a native of NO, attended Holy Cross. Very easily could have attended a private Catholic school but didn't want to. High schools, public and private, back in the day were separated by gender much less race.

Was it a race thing? Likely not as this was pre-integration. I always believed it to be religious education and still do. Did it become a race thing? Possibly but I doubt that as it cost money AND schools had gender segregation.

Possibly race for some, I guess, but the quality of the education more likely. Believe it or not but public schools were pretty decent back in the day. Has integration changed them, sure, but so have many other factors. Mother taught in Jefferson Parish public schools and never heard a complaint about minority kids, not one, but other stuff, such as unions saddened her teaching experience.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
13057 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 6:39 am to
You clearly went on a witch hunt here. Glad it didn't work out for you.

ETA: And if you think the catholic education approach is because people are racist, you don't know much about Louisiana. I went to public school, and there were a lot of racist people, both black and white. Some of the best people I knew in college were catholic school products. They'd give the shirt off their back to anyone in need, regardless of skin color.

Racism is not proportional to the amount of money one makes. And to characterize a school because of some asinine preconcieved notion is sad. There are shitty people at every school. Some are just shitty people from shitty families with a lot of money.
This post was edited on 7/14/18 at 6:57 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49577 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 6:56 am to
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I also know most of y’all are dicks and can’t have a normal convo without it turning ugly because most of y’all are miserable assholes and that’s okay.


Apparently they don't have mirrors in Oklahoma.

Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
6017 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 6:58 am to
Someone didn’t get into CHS
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49577 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 6:59 am to
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If you idiota actually sent your kids to public schools and put money into the public schools then they wouldn't suck so much. Simple concept.


Easy to say when it's not your kids. Could you wave a magic wand, put all private school families in a public and improve it? Sure. Even then, I have issues with the lack of parent controls in EBR. You would have to move to ISDs to see a substantial improvement.

But there isn't a magic wand and I'm not sacrificing my children's potential to make a social statement and fix the problems the government created generations ago.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:02 am to
Over 26% of kids in Baton Rouge and New Orleans attend private school. Only 2.6% of kids in San Antonio, Houston, Austin, Dallas attend private school.

That tells you all you needed to know, much better schools
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49577 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:03 am to
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Yeah, look at the schools that are right outside Birmingham. Vestavia, Mountain Brook, Spain Park, etc are so far above anything in Southern Louisiana besides the schools you have to test to get into (BRHS, Ben Franklin) and Lusher, which is kind of its own unique entity.


Oh, you mean large, community-based ISDs are successful?

I think I remember an area around BR trying to do this and being labeled as racist and everyother nonsensical thing under the sun before being absolutely stonewalled by the status quo.

And, while those school are very good, they still aren't on the level of some the Catholic schools in NOLA and BR.
Posted by MyNameIsNobody
Member since Dec 2013
1232 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:18 am to
Read this article

NOLA.com
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:22 am to
I didn’t go through all these pages so it may have been said but I am saying it anyway. The private school is an additional tax. That said, we sent ours through Episcopal and now Catholic high school.

I say that in the respect of not many great options unless your child can score a very high percentage on standard tests to get into the magnet schools, and there are not too many.

This is, along with whoever is governer at the time, has a lot to do with the decisions of a company moving here and telling their employees, btw, you might need to spend another X amount on school. Employee coming here, use to send their kids to public school and now has to pay those taxes and then send 3 kids to private school.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:26 am to
Public schools suck arse, most time simply because of the erosion of the ability to control the students who are disruptive.
At a private school, the kids have to bust their arse to keep up.
In a public school, the teacher is FORCED to slow down for the kids who cant/wont keep up


That's the biggest difference, IMO

My kids go to a very hard academic school. Not because they are brilliant, but because I want the to have to bust arse to keep up.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117170 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:29 am to
Catholic/Christian/religious instruction
Better discipline
More accountability (private, so no unions and no tenure)
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
13057 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:30 am to
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If you idiota actually sent your kids to public schools and put money into the public schools then they wouldn't suck so much. Simple concept.

Oh yeah, the people who can afford to give their kids a good education are the idiots. You really think our public school systems would do the right thing with that same money that families are putting into private school tuition? This is Louisiana.

A proposed tax that would have provided for pay raises for teachers in St. Landry parish got voted down this past year. Why? Because the people in those schools recognized the existing mismanagement of money, and refused to put more in. Even teachers were opposing the measure.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11842 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:34 am to
Baton Rouge would be an amazing city and school system if it were not for desegregation ruling.


Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80825 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:41 am to
It predates the shitty public school issue as many of the Catholic schools have been open since the 1800s. I think NOLA is the second oldest Catholic diocese in the US. They be always been around in significant numbers.
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