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re: Ex-USA Volleyball coach accused of raping six girls 'hundreds of times'

Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:34 pm to
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:34 pm to
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Before practices, he [Butler] would shove his hands down her pants so he could 'smell her [a victim] through practice,'" the lawsuit stated. "He told her that any time during practice that he had his hand to his nose, he was thinking of her."


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The lawsuit highlighted one incident when one of the victims asked Butler why he was fondling her and kissing her, he allegedly said, “Because I can.”

The lawsuit also alleged Butler raped the victims in a train to Germany, the weight room, his car and his apartment. He is also accused of forcing the girls to watch porn “so they could learn.”




That's not just a guy banging a 16 year old.
Posted by kciDAtaE
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:34 pm to
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The language used implies it was forcible, at least IMO.


No. You think they suggesting he forcibly raped multiple girls hundreds of times?? That’s a completely different scenario and way more of a story/problem.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:34 pm to
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I just think they would say accused of having sex with minors if that were the case. The language used implies it was forcible, at least IMO.

Dude these people aren’t trying to get the story right. They’re sensationalizing for clicks. More than likely he just banged a shitload of 16 year old volleyball players.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:34 pm to
I've met this dude on several occasions. A bit pompous but he is a very good coach. Their club (Sports Performance) has been regarded as one of the best for a very long time.

He never struck me as being capable of doing that to young girls but these days you never know...
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:35 pm to
Read what I quoted then get back to me.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:36 pm to
More detailed report about Butler

Butler had been accused of having sexual contact with five underage girls, dating back to the 1980s. Two of the accusations were made public in an investigative report by the Chicago Sun-Times that was published in November of last year. Two months after the report was published, Butler was banned permanently by USA Volleyball. He was first banned for life by the sport’s governing body in 1995 for having sexual contact with underage girls, but USA Volleyball partially lifted that ban in 2000, allowing him to return to coaching, but stipulating he could not coach junior teams.

The AAU, however, never imposed any limits on him. One of Butler’s former players, Sarah Powers-Barnhard, who said she was abused by Butler for two years starting when she was 16, sued AAU in 2016 for allowing Butler to continue coaching underage girls.

Powers-Barnhard recalled the abuse in an interview with First Coast News. She said Butler told her she needed to “follow him blindly” if she “wanted to be great.”

“He leaned over and kissed me and I had no clue it was coming,” she explained. “No idea. It was very confusing.”

Powers-Barnhard said that incident was just the very beginning of many. She said she lost her virginity to a coach she trusted.

“The sexual abuse started that summer and it came with him inviting me over to his house to talk about the team,” she recalled.

When asked how many times Butler sexually abused her, she replied: “More than I can count. Yeah, hundreds.”

She wasn’t the only one. First Coast News also detailed allegations by Julie Bremner Romias and Christine Brigman Tuzi, both of whom said Butler sexually abused them in high school.

“He was a classic predator,” Romias said. “The first time he actually physically touched me was when we were at a tournament in Japan... That’s when he kissed me and groped me.”

“Shortly thereafter when we got back to the States is when he forced himself on me and raped me,” she said. “I was 17 at the time.”

Tuzi said just the thought of his name brings back fear and panic.

“I’m not ok,” Tuzi said. “I’m not ok. You can ask my kids and husband. I’m not ok. I have issues and I have to work on them daily and that’s because of him.”
This post was edited on 3/1/18 at 1:37 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:36 pm to
His club has still operated even though everyone knew the allegations.

Now that USAV and AAU banned him, it could be a bigger issue. And the charges obviously might end it all together.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:37 pm to
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Read what I quoted then get back to me.

fair enough
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:40 pm to
Also, that title is misleading. It makes it seem you're referring to the national team.

This guy has no affiliation with USA Volleyball other than having a club participate in sanctioned tournaments.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:42 pm to
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I just think they would say accused of having sex with minors if that were the case. The language used implies it was forcible, at least IMO.



This is where semantic games become dumb. People think by saying statutory rape they're diminishing the crime. In truth, I think forcible rape is a big enough jump from everything else that it deserves to be the only unqualified "rape."

Of course if I said that in a college classroom I'd be accused of outright endorsing sexual assault of minors, which is absurd. Since the OT is more reasonable and a bastion for intellectualism, I feel safe saying that here.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:44 pm to
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His wife is loyal as hell

She’s just protecting herself, like Hillary did with Bill.

Her husband’s victims must be destroyed.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:50 pm to
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I'm sure there's something going on but i highly doubt he's raped hundreds of times.

You seem really dialed into this case, probably hav done lots of research.
Posted by mastersleestak
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:52 pm to
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while his wife attempted to silence the victims


Hillary?
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:54 pm to
Where did he find the time to coach..?
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:54 pm to
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Since the OT is more reasonable and a bastion for intellectualism,




In your comparison, yes, but it's funny to take this out of its context.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:57 pm to
His wife sounds like Hillary
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:58 pm to
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Perfect place for predators to do their thing. Parents these days will send there children off to these national camps for months at a time hoping they make it to the highest levels of their sport. These guys have little in the way of preventing them from carrying out such crimes.


Just read some of the accounts of Nassar. A lot of those places, a) parents just drop the kids off, and b) if they are there, they usually aren't allowed in the treatment rooms with the kids. Setup for disaster.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 2:00 pm to
When they say rape are they talking about aggravated rape? Forcible rape? Or Statutory?
Posted by Fa Sheaux Breaux
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 2:01 pm to
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These guys have little in the way of preventing them from carrying out such crimes
Especially when the guy's wife is trying to help him cover it up too.

She's just as sick as him.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 2:01 pm to
SO what club do you coach?
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