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re: Ex-LSP officer unloads; explains how LEO tickets are a $-making operation

Posted on 7/8/18 at 11:39 am to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91873 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 11:39 am to
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people see those organizations and think "they are legitimate because they are trying to protect me"

when really, it's more like "they support laws that will increase their power over me so they can steal more of my money in order to enrich their budgets and salaries". people who bootlick these organizations drive me mad


Saw yesterday the public information officer in Acadia Parish "stole" over $200k in funds that were acquired in CAF over time. I put the word in quotations because it was already stolen from the public, but she stole it from the city court and DA office who each get their share.
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
7196 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 11:40 am to
How does the average American commit three felonies a day?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 11:55 am to
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How does the average American commit three felonies a day?


shite, I'd bet most of us manage to commit three FEDERAL felonies a day before lunch from the federal computer crime laws alone.
This post was edited on 7/8/18 at 11:59 am
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 11:57 am to
E. Pete Adams is a sack of shite.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85538 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 11:57 am to
Theee felonies a day was the title of a book which explored the incredible overcriminalization of our country. I think the book focused on federal criminal statutes but state laws certainly also play a part. The idea is, there are so many criminal laws on the books—thousands—that people often commit crimes without even knowing it.
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You take a fake sick day. Your best friend calls you on a Tuesday night and says he won two tickets to see your favorite baseball team play on Wednesday. The seats are incredible and you know this opportunity won't come again any time soon, so you decide to call in sick to work on Wednesday morning. You figure that, after all, it's something everyone does every now and then. You did not know, however, that you have just committed a "scheme or artifice to defraud" the company to their "intangible right to your "honest services" — arguably a federal crime. Real example: This statute was so vague that a few years ago, the Supreme Court ammended it to apply only to "bribes" or "kickbacks" that illegally influenced lawmakers. Regardless of Court's rewriting, Cato Institute policy analyst David Rittgers wrote that "little has changed" in how ambiguous the statute is. As Justice Scalia stated, it still criminalizes "a salaried employee's phoning in sick to go to a ball game."

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You get lost in the woods. You decide to take your motorbike for a ride in the woods, along the marked path where it's permitted. You didn't realize that a massive blizzard was coming and by the time there is a layer of snow covering the ground, you've lost track of the path. An officer finds you and charges you with having your motorbike in an area where it is not allowed, because you, unknowingly and without intent, have violated the Wilderness Act, which seeks to protect federally-designated areas of wilderness, partly by prohibiting motor vehicles. Real example: In 1996 well-known automobile racer Bobby Unser was convicted of a federal crime and sentenced to six months in prison. Why? Because he got lost in a blizzard in Colorado for two days while snowmobiling, and was guilty of "unlawful operation of a snowmobile within a National Forest Wilderness Area."

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6. You email your family and friends to tell them not to use the services provided by your old company. You used to work at a financial services company but you were unhappy at the job for a while and finally quit. While you were still employed there, though, you realized that the transactions were not completely secure. You had alerted your boss to the problem at the time, but he never followed up. After leaving the job, you email people to let them know that the company's system is not secure and a hacker could gain access to their financial information. Your intentions were pure, but a judge could argue that you violated the Computer Fraud and Abuse law, which outlaws anyone from sending information, with the intent to cause damage, to a protected computer. The law's definition of "damage" includes "impairment to integrity" of a system or data, a phrase vague enough to turn you from an innocent ex-employee to a convicted felon. Real example: In 2000 Bret McDanel served 16 months in prison after he alerted customers of his old company, Tornado Development, about a software problem that was never fixed. He explained that the company's email system had a flaw that could allow an attacker to gain access to a user's email records. The prosecutors argued that McDanel had damaged Tornado's system. Wired called McDanel a "wrongly jailed security whistleblower

Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53816 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 12:00 pm to
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As Justice Scalia stated, it still criminalizes "a salaried employee's phoning in sick to go to a ball game."

Scalia was a Titan
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85538 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 12:02 pm to
I do think it’d be more accurate to say something like “it is easy to commit three felonies a day.” Even easier is to commit state misdemeanors and of course traffic violations every day. Although most criminal laws are legit.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 12:02 pm to
frick THE STATE POLICE


FOR REAL
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 12:03 pm to
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we need exposing of local/parish schemes and federal prosecutions of LEO/DAs/Prosecutors who violate rights. they should also look into using RICO to prosecute agencies for mass violations criminal law (like this LACE program seems to be)


This, plus ending civil asset forfeiture, would be a huge step for justice in this state.
Posted by WMTigerFAN
Ouachita
Member since Feb 2005
5019 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 12:04 pm to
I drive I-20 a lot, and have gotten more tickets in the past 3 years than the rest of my entire life, and I've been driving 44 years and have never caused an accident.

It's not about dangerous driving, it's about collecting revenue. If they were so concerned about public safety the DA wouldn't be knocking them down to non moveables or put the offender in a diversion program so it doesn't affect insurance.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 12:05 pm to
I got a ticket a couple weeks ago for what they call passing on the shoulder. All I did was go halfway on the shoulder to get into a turning lane that was being blocked by car that didn't pull up.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10810 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 12:07 pm to
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’m sure he’s right and his story is legit, but frick him dead in his crooked arse. Slimy fricker had no problem with it while he had a badge, now he wants to complain?
Dudes a crook and a count. He needs to get prison time for being a bitch, not just a dirty cop.



So, are you for or against the continued actions he described?

If against I would think you would support his shining a light on these actions.

Are you a cop?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 12:11 pm to
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I got a ticket a couple weeks ago for what they call passing on the shoulder. All I did was go halfway on the shoulder to get into a turning lane that was being blocked by car that didn't pull up.


fricking savage
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10810 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 12:13 pm to
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we need to reduce our criminal codes by like 75-90%


But but where would the police get their money?

I laugh at the cops in this thread. "Did they break the law" how many of these "officers" would write the ticket for a friend or another cop? None.

They do not write tickets for safety concerns. They are revenue generators plain and simple. Now they are sad that their scheme is being exposed.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10810 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 12:15 pm to
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ou think this is a valid use of law enforcement resources, considering the overall violent crime in this state?


Bet it makes them more money
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10810 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 12:20 pm to
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they aren't doing this for safety. they're literally doing it to take our money. no other reason.



To be fair, if they dont dont do this they may have to get a real job. One where they are held to the same standards as everyone else. Oh the horror.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 12:21 pm to
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Surely you can understand why speeding ticket quotas are a bad thing, no?


I, for one, do not. If people aren't breaking the law, tickets can't be written. If tickets aren't written, quotas go down. If quotas go down, police are forced to spend their resources elsewhere, i.e. policing useful things.

So how are quotas bad, exactly?
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
74134 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 12:22 pm to
I hate the idea of fulfilling some quota as a police officer. Should not be necessary.
Posted by sostan
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
1154 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 12:22 pm to
I am fine with tickets in the name of public safety. I am not fine with bullshite "gotcha" tickets in order to produce revenue for LEO overtime or shortfall in department budgets.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53816 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 12:24 pm to
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I am fine with tickets in the name of public safety. I am not fine with bullshite "gotcha" tickets in order to produce revenue for LEO overtime or shortfall in department budgets.

I got a ticket in my neighborhood a few months ago. Running a stop sign at a 3 way stop. I came to a 99% stop with no other vehicles around. I just didn't come to a rock back stop. $160 for complete bullshite.

It looks the same as me blowing through it at 30 mph with my insurance though
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