Started By
Message

re: Ever wonder why the suicide rates for veterans are so high?

Posted on 6/8/23 at 7:08 am to
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
2413 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 7:08 am to
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150873 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 7:16 am to
quote:

During the livestream, he shot himself in the head with a bolt-action rifle (no I will not post the link to the actual video).

I remember seeing that video (it's still very easy to find online); it was fricking BRUTAL. He was so intent on doing it and was so matter of fact about it. Sad shite when someone like that feels that's the only way out of the feelings inside.
Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 7:37 am to
Easy, because they get treated like shite. Not looking for glory but I’ve bee waiting 7 years for a hearing on disability. Being treated for Non Hodgkins Lymphoma from exposure to Agent Orange, verified by 3 different oncologist.
Had one Dr at the VA said they are just waiting for me to die.
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
2413 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 7:56 am to
People were saying that it was accidental since he was drunk, but I call bullshite on that. He was clearly unhinged the entire fricking livestream. But to shoot himself on a livestream while his mother and friends were watching was an absolute dick move.
Posted by HuskyPanda
Philly
Member since Feb 2018
1752 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 8:05 am to
quote:

although having watched it myself I don't recommend watching it as it's pretty traumatizing.


I saw it and I was taken aback by how quick he did the act. Was on the phone with his ex-girlfriend then said, "Well guys I guess that's it" then boom. No hesitation or nothing.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30300 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 8:08 am to
I did not serve and neither did many of my friends. I don’t really have the right to an opinion on if soldiers are more apt to suicide due to their service. I have always assumed their risk were significantly higher but it doesn’t surprise me to hear that that the National average suicide is scary high also. I’ve had several friends commit it over the years. More than I would like to count.

Our world is screwed up. Something is going on and while PTSD is high for soldiers, everyday non service men kill themselves way too much also.

It’s a sad situation when you get that guy punch call that you never saw coming.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21598 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 8:14 am to
quote:

Ever wonder why the suicide rates for veterans are so high?


Anyone who has ever had to deal with VA hospitals and doctors can ALMOST understand. It is an absolute fricking joke! They don't give a shite!

These are people who sacrificed at least part of their life to defend our country and they are treated like stray dogs that got hit by a car.

If you are associated with a VA hospital or their services and not trying to make things better, you are a piece of shite!
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150873 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 8:16 am to
quote:

People were saying that it was accidental since he was drunk, but I call bullshite on that. He was clearly unhinged the entire fricking livestream.

It was very clearly not accidental. He calls his ex-girlfriend and that conversation ends and he's like "Ok, so it's like that?" Then looks at the camera and says something like "Well everybody, this is it" and explodes his head in half.

Maybe alcohol had some influence on him, but that was 100% intentional. I'm shocked there are some people who believe it to be accidental. I'm curious as to why they'd even remotely think that.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150873 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 8:18 am to
quote:

Anyone who has ever had to deal with VA hospitals and doctors can ALMOST understand. It is an absolute fricking joke! They don't give a shite!

These are people who sacrificed at least part of their life to defend our country and they are treated like stray dogs that got hit by a car.

If you are associated with a VA hospital or their services and not trying to make things better, you are a piece of shite!

I can attest to some of this. I deal with the VA a ton for my dad, and they are borderline useless. And it sucks too, because there are some people there that truly do want to help. But a lot of them are just useless and don't give a shite. People who champion for government controlled healthcare have very obviously never dealt with something like the VA, because otherwise they would understand just how stupid/bad of an idea that really is.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85140 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 8:18 am to
quote:

Probably has way more to do with the types of person that self selects for the military

What type of person is that exactly?


Well there is no one type, hence the plural use of “types”, but people who are predisposed for combat, for starters. Also, I’d be surprised if the suicide rates are as high for officers as they are for regular enlisted, which is interesting and suggests it’s not just a broad veteran problem.

Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
15920 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 8:20 am to
Let's do this. Stop going to war over frivolous and made up reasons and we won't have war veterans anymore. Only peace time veterans.
Posted by Nome tiger
SETX
Member since Nov 2014
86 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 9:34 am to
Hate to be the only one to ask because any suicide is a tragedy but what does the mainstream media have to do with a live stream or TicTok memes?
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
2413 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 9:37 am to
You didn’t read all of what I said. A veteran named Ronnie McNutt shot himself in the head on a Facebook livestream which went viral. People were literally mocking this guy’s death and media networks were jumping in on it too. I linked a website
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 9:45 am
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
6074 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 9:38 am to
I thought it was because they had been brainwashed, exposed to intense pressure for months on end, witnessed unspeakable horrors, given a quick cooling off period and sent back out into the world? And even though they might be offered counseling, all that training to be "tough" makes it an impossibility for them to admit they need help, let alone accept help?

Military family with military friends. It seems every month I hear about someone that gave up the fight. I worry about a couple of my friends, honestly. I know they are getting help, but they have ghosts.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4301 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 9:39 am to
Those officers who made it to retirement have it made for the most part if they were smart. If you look at their retirement pay, healthcare, dental, and disability pay those Colonel's and Generals from these last two wars are handsomely compensated.

Money is not everything, and never will be but it makes things much easier.
Posted by Nome tiger
SETX
Member since Nov 2014
86 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 9:46 am to
My apologies, we have a different definition of “mainstream media”. I was thinking NBC, CBS, New York Times WSJ ect.
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
2413 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 9:47 am to
What’s fricked up is that people were mocking this guy in the comment section of the uncut video. They said he looked like the “demigorgon from Stranger Things” after the suicide and other terrible shite. These kids commenting have clearly have never lost someone close to them
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 9:48 am
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
2413 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 9:49 am to
Any tabloid that’s based in NYC or LA would fit the definition of “mainstream media” in my opinion but it’s all subjective I guess.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4301 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 9:50 am to
Not to mention this man went to WAR for US.

Kids are so disrespectful but lets be honest, its parenting.
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15794 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:21 am to
quote:

Also, I’d be surprised if the suicide rates are as high for officers as they are for regular enlisted, which is interesting and suggests it’s not just a broad veteran problem.


You do realize who does the bulk of the front line work in the Army and Marines, right? Officers don't see the front line at nearly the rate that enlisted does, which tends to lessen the effects of combat.

One infantry SNCO has probably seen more combat than all of the officers he's worked under, combined.
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 11:21 am
first pageprev pagePage 4 of 5Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram