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re: Ever had your life fall apart?
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:05 am to Tiger Vision
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:05 am to Tiger Vision
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God's grace.
L O L
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:07 am to Da Hammer
If have not read this thread at all and this probably already came up but if your a professing Christain and you sincerely want to get better clarity and perspective Read the story of Job may be a good help to you.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:09 am to tuptiger
Yep - going on disability right after going through Katrina. The first few years cost me around $300,000 in lost income and medical costs. Not to mention robbing me of pretty much everything I enjoyed recreationally. Definitely a case of "when it rains it pours." Not to sound cliche, but all you can do is roll with the punches. And I'm an atheist, so I used reality rather than "faith" to get through it.
This post was edited on 8/12/16 at 10:11 am
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:13 am to tuptiger
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Why pray then if there's total free will? Why wouldn't God, who's all powerful and allegedly omnipotent, intervene?
I definitely can't speak for all, but I pray to delve more deeply within myself and maintain a spiritual connection with God. I usually spend my time in prayer simply contemplating and thanking God for the blessings that I do have.
An attitude of gratitude (regardless of who or what it's directed toward) fosters a happier lifestyle. And this is not religious mumbo-jumbo. Secular science has found evidence for this. LINK
This post was edited on 8/12/16 at 10:15 am
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:13 am to LCA131
Thanks. I've tried to believe that (that there isn't anything more)many times in the past, but couldn't get past the undeniable fact that there were still many more reasons to believe otherwise.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:13 am to bigbowe80
At the end of Job, which occurs over a 4 month period, God restored him fourfold.
At the beginning, my relationship to God got stronger. After it continually got worse, and things just kept happening, it definitely got worse. Attended mass consistently. Quit going. Stopped praying. I stopped caring essentially. Generally, before much of this happened, I would share my faith with people who brought it up. That no longer happens. As a matter of fact, I see their side on suffering and a "loving God".
I read Job several times. I actually had someone tell me to read Job before much of this shite started happening. It was eery that in the following months, things got much worse.
At the beginning, my relationship to God got stronger. After it continually got worse, and things just kept happening, it definitely got worse. Attended mass consistently. Quit going. Stopped praying. I stopped caring essentially. Generally, before much of this happened, I would share my faith with people who brought it up. That no longer happens. As a matter of fact, I see their side on suffering and a "loving God".
I read Job several times. I actually had someone tell me to read Job before much of this shite started happening. It was eery that in the following months, things got much worse.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:15 am to tuptiger
the reason for God by Tim Keller is a good read when struggling with the goodness of God in the midst of tribulations.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:22 am to tuptiger
Music is always a source of comfort for me in rough times.
Here are some Christian songs that have helped me when I'm frustrated, depressed, sad, etc with my life. They helped me to cling to my faith when things got bad and more negative thoughts started trying to overcome my mind. I hope they can bring you some comfort as well and remind you that God is always with you, no matter what.
Worn---Tenth Avenue North
Praise You in this Storm--Casting Crowns
See You---Josh Wilson
Thy Will--Hillary Scott
Trust in You--Lauren Daigle
Times--Tenth Avenue North
Here are some Christian songs that have helped me when I'm frustrated, depressed, sad, etc with my life. They helped me to cling to my faith when things got bad and more negative thoughts started trying to overcome my mind. I hope they can bring you some comfort as well and remind you that God is always with you, no matter what.
Worn---Tenth Avenue North
Praise You in this Storm--Casting Crowns
See You---Josh Wilson
Thy Will--Hillary Scott
Trust in You--Lauren Daigle
Times--Tenth Avenue North
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:25 am to tuptiger
Yes... I'm currently dealing with most things in your OP
life really sucks right now, the only thing keeping me going is my son and my fiancé
Been really, really rough lately and I'm running out of options
life really sucks right now, the only thing keeping me going is my son and my fiancé
Been really, really rough lately and I'm running out of options
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:26 am to tuptiger
I did. Mine was triggered by divorce and break up of family. Don't buy into this God is making you suffer deal. He's not. It's just life playing out. Don't blame him.
For me, it was learning to live one day at a time. I know it sounds cliche, but it's true. I was most hopeless when I was either looking back at the past and wishing I had done something different. Or looking into the future and projecting all the bad things that could happen, such as holidays, finances, etc.
The truth is, both are worthless. You can't change the past. And why worry about what may not even happen? Most of what I projected and worried about never even happened.
All I can say is it will get better. In the meantime, just try to concentrate on one day, each day. I learned that there is nothing too difficult for me to overcome in one single day. I can wake up, and figure out what needs to be done, and do it, and survive. It takes a lot of practice, and I still fall into the trap. But when I do, at least I realize I am, and go back to trusting in the moment.
Don't fret over things getting much worse. They actually might get much better. Think about that instead. And I would say continue to pray and ask for strength.
For me, it was learning to live one day at a time. I know it sounds cliche, but it's true. I was most hopeless when I was either looking back at the past and wishing I had done something different. Or looking into the future and projecting all the bad things that could happen, such as holidays, finances, etc.
The truth is, both are worthless. You can't change the past. And why worry about what may not even happen? Most of what I projected and worried about never even happened.
All I can say is it will get better. In the meantime, just try to concentrate on one day, each day. I learned that there is nothing too difficult for me to overcome in one single day. I can wake up, and figure out what needs to be done, and do it, and survive. It takes a lot of practice, and I still fall into the trap. But when I do, at least I realize I am, and go back to trusting in the moment.
Don't fret over things getting much worse. They actually might get much better. Think about that instead. And I would say continue to pray and ask for strength.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:27 am to captainahab
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ElderTiger. My fat finger on small device cast an unintentional down vote...meant to up vote. Good advice!
No problem...have a great day !
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:27 am to bobaftt1212
You sound like 1 out of every 4 Uber drivers that I have ridden with. They insist on telling me all their troubles within 90 seconds of getting in the car in exchange for a potential sympathy tip.
I always believe in tough situations that one should focus 100% on all the things that they can control and things will get back on track.
Have one shitty job and not making ends meet? Well, work a second one part time.
Also, why dwell on a past relationship with a girl who wouldn't stand by your side through all of that? The relationship piece should be your last priority until you have yourself in a good place. Plus, you got no cash to go on dates anyways.
I always believe in tough situations that one should focus 100% on all the things that they can control and things will get back on track.
Have one shitty job and not making ends meet? Well, work a second one part time.
Also, why dwell on a past relationship with a girl who wouldn't stand by your side through all of that? The relationship piece should be your last priority until you have yourself in a good place. Plus, you got no cash to go on dates anyways.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:36 am to tuptiger
God isn't going to do shite for you.
Stop the whining and get of your arse.
Stop the whining and get of your arse.
This post was edited on 8/12/16 at 10:46 am
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:38 am to say when
Wise quote from Uncle Iroh:
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Even in the material world, you will find that if you look for the light, that you can often find it. But if you look for the dark, that is all you will ever see.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:40 am to tuptiger
When I was 30 I had been married to my college sweetheart for about 9 years, had a daughter, a son, a career, a nice home, 2 cars, a boat; the American dream. But in a 6 month span I lost a job, got a divorce, sold the boat and moved back in with family. It absolutely sucked and my biggest fear in life was having screwed up kids because of divorce.
I was only out of work a few weeks and during the divorce transition I did the following:
1. focus on the kids and made sure they knew both of us loved them.
2. saved up for an old shotgun double.
3. worked out with weights and trained for a Marathon.
4. went out more, joined a coed Vball league and made new friends.
5. bought a canoe and started fishing in it way before Kayak fishing was a thing (both kids fit in it with me).
About a year and a half later I had a home that I had renovated myself, extra income from the rental, was in great shape, had a new girlfriend (after whoring around a while), and my kids were growing up just fine. I was happy again.
The key is balancing self-improvement with whoring around.
I was only out of work a few weeks and during the divorce transition I did the following:
1. focus on the kids and made sure they knew both of us loved them.
2. saved up for an old shotgun double.
3. worked out with weights and trained for a Marathon.
4. went out more, joined a coed Vball league and made new friends.
5. bought a canoe and started fishing in it way before Kayak fishing was a thing (both kids fit in it with me).
About a year and a half later I had a home that I had renovated myself, extra income from the rental, was in great shape, had a new girlfriend (after whoring around a while), and my kids were growing up just fine. I was happy again.
The key is balancing self-improvement with whoring around.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:41 am to say when
Maybe the OP should take a break from God and focus on other things in life. I know it's not easy, but always explore other avenues for success and a sense of happiness.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:45 am to dat yat
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The key is balancing self-improvement with whoring around.
That's a life lesson right there.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:49 am to tuptiger
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Why pray then if there's total free will?
I don't pray for intervention
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Why wouldn't God, who's all powerful and allegedly omnipotent, intervene?
because we have free will and thats cheating.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:23 am to tuptiger
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am a Christian, but I'm really starting to have some doubts.
You sound VERY christian. You've quoted a lot of scripture. You've put all the eggs in one basket. Can't do that.
People (Facebook people) always say "give it to God" and leave it in his hands. If you LITERALLY do that, it can mean you've done nothing for yourself. Then wonder why the sky is falling down around you.
A 2 year illness with no diagnosis sounds psychosomatic. Depression or anxiety or both. Again I AM NOT knocking you. Before 32 I would have been the "suck it up" crowd. But a panic attack took care of that attitude. After 2 years SOMEBODY told you SOMETHING.
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