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re: EV owners are going to pay the piper in TX.

Posted on 5/20/23 at 3:49 pm to
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18061 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 3:49 pm to
We should just go to a GVWR based fee across the board for everyone who’s concerned about weight.
This post was edited on 5/20/23 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Flashback
reading the chicken bones
Member since Apr 2008
8479 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 3:54 pm to
EVs weigh a shite ton. The roads need to repair
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10796 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 4:07 pm to
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If they don't have to pay than nobody else should either and TX should abolish the gas tax.



Do it. I love taxes being abolished.

I hate new taxes.

But a should not support a tax simply because it will not hurt them. That is a move I would expect from a lib.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39926 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 4:23 pm to
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EV owners are going to pay the piper in TX.

We pay out of our asses in rosd usage fees at the pump. If you want to drive your electric go kart, and demand charging stations every 350 ft, you're going to pay for it.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 4:25 pm to
They still use the roads, so why should they ride for free?
Posted by LSUTigerFan247
Member since Jun 2017
3811 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:16 pm to
Just like streaming TV was super cheap before it became the next big thing, it slowly crept up to be the same price or more than cable and satellite. EVs will go the same way. They will fee you to death for not paying into the oil industry and taxes.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:24 pm to
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Do it. I love taxes being abolished.

I hate new taxes.

But a should not support a tax simply because it will not hurt them. That is a move I would expect from a lib.

The babies have boo-boos that kisses won't fix. They need to see that you have a boo-boo as well.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
23172 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:34 pm to
I think the fee should be doubled.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5642 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:34 pm to
Unless you drive more than 350 miles
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:36 pm to
The $200 a year thing isn't an egregious way to offset gasoline taxes but the upfront $400 on top of that makes it seem shady at best.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23216 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:39 pm to
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The problem is $200 is in no way their fair share. The article states the average driver in Texas pays $88 a year in gas tax. How is it even remotely fair to charge EVs owners (most of whom only commute locally) more than double what your typical ICE vehicle owner pays?


Ok so it’s like $100 more, and EVs have been paying nothing until now, right?

How is this a big deal at all?
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
11726 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:40 pm to
Well, taxes for road repairs/improvements are typically rolled into state taxes at the pump.

So, adding fees on EV registration is not abhorrent.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:40 pm to
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We pay out of our asses in rosd usage fees at the pump.


$200 a year is equivalent to 19.23 gallons a week. Plus there's an extra $400 fee which is bullshite. You just can't help but make fools outta yourself.

First you came for the EVs and then nobody cared when they came for you. Be against taxes. Abolish the gas tax and charge based on miles if it bothers you that much.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18061 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:47 pm to
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Unless you drive more than 350 miles

If only there was a solution for this.
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
4020 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:51 pm to
Considering they should also be paying a grid upgrade fee, they are getting off light.
Posted by Porpus
Covington, LA
Member since Aug 2022
2718 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:52 pm to
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EVs weight much more than ICE vehicles of the same class. So an increase in road-use fees seem appropriate.

That was my thought, too. A Tesla weighs something like 5,000 pounds.

The heaviness of modern vehicles really is a scourge.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18061 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:57 pm to
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A Tesla weighs something like 5,000 pounds.

You guys are really leaning into this. A model 3 weighs either 3500 or 4000 lbs depending on its configuration. Slightly more than a BMW 3 series or Honda accord curb weight. It’s not some massive difference. People driving trucks and giant SUVs who don’t need them are doing way more damage to infrastructure than a mid size sedan EV. Y’all have fricking lost it.
This post was edited on 5/20/23 at 5:58 pm
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
9026 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 6:00 pm to
This is good news and a long time coming, if EV's are going to be on the road more and more and shoved down our throats.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89779 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 6:10 pm to
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Have you actually looked into this?


So lets say I want to fix up my business with 30 ev trucks and to help load the trucks I need 10 electric forklifts.

What kind of solar panels am I looking at to charge these bad boys daily?

Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4146 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 6:15 pm to
This is the "pulled rug" reality of the total EV world your betters want.

Glad tx is showing it ahead of time and getting these fricks on record calling their own policies punitive.

Eta:

At the same time, knowing the Republicans are just as authoritarian and shitty as the Dems, this is most likely the basis for a future tax system where you're only allowed EV's.
This post was edited on 5/20/23 at 6:17 pm
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