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Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:42 pm to Saskwatch
The OT always makes you crack a smile ...
That's the thing I struggled with was the indifference..f_ck him or breaking down in tears would have been emotion, just different ends of the spectrum.
I said today to my closest friends, this news was no different than finding out the weather in Topeka from the news paper. Flat nothing.
I was torn because seeing the women & children in Afghanistan brought me more sadness thelan this...I really looked in the mirror wondering what type of person didn't care their sperm donor/biological father/dad is dead.
At this moment , as I type, I have no questions about how/funeral/where ...I guess the weather in Topeka actually had more of an impact on my heart & that scares me.
That's the thing I struggled with was the indifference..f_ck him or breaking down in tears would have been emotion, just different ends of the spectrum.
I said today to my closest friends, this news was no different than finding out the weather in Topeka from the news paper. Flat nothing.
I was torn because seeing the women & children in Afghanistan brought me more sadness thelan this...I really looked in the mirror wondering what type of person didn't care their sperm donor/biological father/dad is dead.
At this moment , as I type, I have no questions about how/funeral/where ...I guess the weather in Topeka actually had more of an impact on my heart & that scares me.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:46 pm to Rsande63
You’re overthinking this. He was a stranger. Unless he died in some unfortunate, distressing way, you should have more emotion for the people currently abandoned in Afghanistan
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:47 pm to Rsande63
quote:I've never quite heard it put so eloquently, but well said.
do understand there are prisons and cemeteries full of people who left the hospital doomed from their birth in this dark world.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:50 pm to Rsande63
I think what you’re going through or better put, “not going through” is perfectly natural.
I went through something similar with biological grandfather. I actually met him once. When he died, I felt nothing other than hearing a stranger died. My only thoughts were if my own father might be impacted. He wasn’t. He felt the same way.
It was a stranger.
I went through something similar with biological grandfather. I actually met him once. When he died, I felt nothing other than hearing a stranger died. My only thoughts were if my own father might be impacted. He wasn’t. He felt the same way.
It was a stranger.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:53 pm to Rsande63
I cannot imagine feeling anything different than what you are feeling.
I am very fortunate to have had / (still do) great Mom & Dad and countless blessings that come with that.
Neither my Dad nor my Mom knew their Dads. Made my commitment to commitment of family stronger than it ever could have otherwise been.
For some reasons that perhaps you/we cannot yet understand, you and your estranged biological father had the paths that you had. Something good comes...
Best to you in finding all of it.
I am very fortunate to have had / (still do) great Mom & Dad and countless blessings that come with that.
Neither my Dad nor my Mom knew their Dads. Made my commitment to commitment of family stronger than it ever could have otherwise been.
For some reasons that perhaps you/we cannot yet understand, you and your estranged biological father had the paths that you had. Something good comes...
Best to you in finding all of it.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:53 pm to Rsande63
You will feel something, or you already have. Your grief is not for the man but for the loss of what could have been a meaningful relationship.
I have a nonexistent father, I wonder someday when he dies, if he isn't already dead, if I will grieve? But I think I already experienced that grief as a child and again when I had my children. Don't doubt your veracity/decency based on emotions you dont feel. I agree with your pastor...this is not what defines you. Im sorry for your loss of childhood, not the death of the man who fathered you.
I have a nonexistent father, I wonder someday when he dies, if he isn't already dead, if I will grieve? But I think I already experienced that grief as a child and again when I had my children. Don't doubt your veracity/decency based on emotions you dont feel. I agree with your pastor...this is not what defines you. Im sorry for your loss of childhood, not the death of the man who fathered you.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:54 pm to Rsande63
I can sort of relate — my dad left my mom when she was pregnant. She remarried when I was four and that’s my daddy.
I often wonder what my reaction will be when I’m told my father died (when the day comes). Difference is I knkw him but he was ever involved — although he tried as it was “convenient” when he moved back to the area .. I was 50 years old. I mean ..
Anyway, give yourself grace and time. Blessings to you.
I often wonder what my reaction will be when I’m told my father died (when the day comes). Difference is I knkw him but he was ever involved — although he tried as it was “convenient” when he moved back to the area .. I was 50 years old. I mean ..
Anyway, give yourself grace and time. Blessings to you.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:55 pm to Rsande63
How can you mourn someone you didn’t know? Save your feelings for the people who actually raised you. They may not be perfect either, but they did the hard work and stuck by you.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:57 pm to Oilfieldbiology
Oilfieldbiology,
Thanks & I agree. Same advice I was given today, no reason to turn this around on myself.
UKWildcats,
For the most part on TD/OT Lounge we are law-abiding, tax paying citizens. We all probably share the "pull yourself up by your bootstrap" type of mentality.
If we want to be honest & empathetic some people never have a chance and I appreciate that. There are many , many people in a prison/cemetery paying for their decisions , as they should. In a parallel & hypothetical universe, they may have made better choices if they had a loving home. Sometimes I wish we could see that as a society.
Thanks & I agree. Same advice I was given today, no reason to turn this around on myself.
UKWildcats,
For the most part on TD/OT Lounge we are law-abiding, tax paying citizens. We all probably share the "pull yourself up by your bootstrap" type of mentality.
If we want to be honest & empathetic some people never have a chance and I appreciate that. There are many , many people in a prison/cemetery paying for their decisions , as they should. In a parallel & hypothetical universe, they may have made better choices if they had a loving home. Sometimes I wish we could see that as a society.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:58 pm to Rsande63
You’re posting on the OT. You’re doing pretty good and turned out to be a good person my man!
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:03 pm to Rsande63
It sounds to me that his did you a huge favor by not being involved in your life.
Being a sperm donor is not being a father. There’s a huge difference.

Being a sperm donor is not being a father. There’s a huge difference.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:05 pm to Rsande63
I was this way with my grandfather. I didn't meet him until I was 14 and I already had a lot of dislike for him by the way he treated my grandmother and my mother. When he died it was like hearing that a stranger died because I never knew him.
I've seen a lot of bad fathers over the years, my wife hasn't seen hers since she was a kid. I knew I would never raise my kids that way, even my stepdaughters are like my own. That's all you can do is make sure your kids grow up normal and know that they are loved unconditionally.
I've seen a lot of bad fathers over the years, my wife hasn't seen hers since she was a kid. I knew I would never raise my kids that way, even my stepdaughters are like my own. That's all you can do is make sure your kids grow up normal and know that they are loved unconditionally.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:09 pm to Turf Taint
Turf,
It was fascinating talking to my two friends , one had a great traditional family like you & other a tragically broken home.
My friend with traditional family took the first 10 minutes of the call digesting my emotion because he loves his father so much.
Life & friends are incredible, you surround yourself with people who are seemingly different at face value but still care and listen.
Jenn,
Thanks & like you I always wondered how the day would come. This thread is correct & insightful for people with absent fathers/ mothers. The underlying theme is correct, love everyone on earth but save your feelings & devotion for those closest to you that actually deserve it. The "love thy neighbor" is correct but your energy,passion, and willingness to give your last breath goes to those that deserve it. That level of care isn't automatic.
It was fascinating talking to my two friends , one had a great traditional family like you & other a tragically broken home.
My friend with traditional family took the first 10 minutes of the call digesting my emotion because he loves his father so much.
Life & friends are incredible, you surround yourself with people who are seemingly different at face value but still care and listen.
Jenn,
Thanks & like you I always wondered how the day would come. This thread is correct & insightful for people with absent fathers/ mothers. The underlying theme is correct, love everyone on earth but save your feelings & devotion for those closest to you that actually deserve it. The "love thy neighbor" is correct but your energy,passion, and willingness to give your last breath goes to those that deserve it. That level of care isn't automatic.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:12 pm to Rsande63
You sound like you turned out to be a great person without him. His loss for not being part of your life. God bless you.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:14 pm to Rsande63
Sorry to hear about this. I can't imagine not knowing my father. Seems you grew up well adjusted regardless, congratulations on overcoming. 
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:16 pm to Rsande63
quote:You are awesome, my friend. Your story brings tears to my eyes. What a great man you are.
She has a horrid history of drugs, mental health, and other issues.
My daughter loves her and that brings me such happiness.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:19 pm to tigergirl10
quote:
You are awesome, my friend. Your story brings tears to my eyes. What a great man you are.
Agree. Great example for his daughter as well.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:20 pm to tigergirl10
tigergirl10 & Roger,
I'm a broken fool like everyone else but thanks!
Threads like this actually bring out and highlight our shared & divergent experiences in life+ the classic bad jokes.
I'm just an example of finding this message board as Ryan Perrilloux flipped from Texas while sitting in Fairway View to now picking up tips to be a better father & how to fix a leaking sink.
I'm a broken fool like everyone else but thanks!
Threads like this actually bring out and highlight our shared & divergent experiences in life+ the classic bad jokes.
I'm just an example of finding this message board as Ryan Perrilloux flipped from Texas while sitting in Fairway View to now picking up tips to be a better father & how to fix a leaking sink.
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 10:23 pm
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