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re: EPA to require that cars and trucks achieve an average of 52 mpg average by 2026

Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:04 am to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41342 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:04 am to
What % of gasoline are you saving by having your engine shut off for 15 seconds every half hour while idling?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
135891 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:04 am to
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only way my tundra would do that is if it was riding on the back of a flatbed.



Yep, that's why I bought a 2021. Wanted to get one before all this silliness got ramped up even further.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41342 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:04 am to
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I'd like an engineer to explain to me how im supposed to be able to tow my camper with an electric vehicle that gets 60mpg.


You’re not.
This post was edited on 8/9/21 at 8:05 am
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
148223 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:05 am to
MuH cArBoNs
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38973 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:05 am to
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but like most responsible people I'm not into blowing coal.


Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
21813 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:06 am to
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but like most responsible people I'm not into blowing coal.



What makes you think I am? I drive a 6cyl.

The F250 figs are just as annoying and ignorant as the Prius figs, but who am I to judge what they do in the bedroom?
Posted by bnb9433
Member since Jan 2015
14738 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:06 am to
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65134 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:16 am to
I guess I can see why they are pushing the antiquated trains, lol…..
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103125 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:16 am to
Not just the rural middle class. It hurts a lot of people who live in suburban or less densely populated urban areas as well.

Try to get on the interstate in BR in a SmartCar and you will have so many cars up your arse you would think you were Ryan Dunn of Jackass.

The only areas where crap like that is feasible are dense urban areas like the northeast which run from DC to Boston and certain huge cities like San Francisco which are car unfriendly to begin with.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70991 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:18 am to
Id like to see the total emissions output and how that is influenced by the engine half-assed heat cycling at a stoplight and then having to re-start itself every time. The dirtiest any engine ever runs is the first few seconds after a cold start.
Posted by ELLSSUU
Member since Jan 2005
7955 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:18 am to
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My car automatically stops its engine when I am at a stoplight or stop sign.


Incoming post about why did my Starter and Battery die so fast in 3, 2, 1
Posted by LoneStar23
USA
Member since Aug 2019
5782 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:20 am to
We are beyond fricked. Screw anyone that thinks EVs are an answer to anything
Posted by ithad2bme
Houston transplant from B.R.
Member since Sep 2008
3647 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:20 am to
This is only the beginning, the new EPA head Regan got the highest award from the Sierra Club a few years ago for blocking pipelines in NC using the 401 WQC.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70991 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:22 am to
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Screw anyone that thinks EVs are an answer to anything


Let's look at the total lifetime environmental footprint of a lithium ion battery EV vs a standard Toyota camry.

We don't really care because the metal mining and battery building is happening in some far away land, where they don't give a flying frick about emissions or the environment.
This post was edited on 8/9/21 at 8:23 am
Posted by Leon Spinks
Texas
Member since Aug 2016
2329 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:31 am to
I thought I was doing good when my deleted f250 went from 15 mpg to 19 mpg
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
11017 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:31 am to
Electric vehicles have much greater acceleration rates versus gas engines and have as much power for towing and hauling.

Once the battery technology gets better (lighter, more distances, quick recharging) the gas engine will be replaced. The gas engine will go the way of the coal-fired steam engine.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64057 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:32 am to
This is just a way for them to reduce the amount of vehicles in circulation and slowly force people into a world where no one owns a car.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
34758 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:32 am to
Fueled by Obama farts.
Posted by Morgan56
Member since Jan 2006
1190 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:33 am to
Why not just regulate it to 100 MPG, or 1000 MPG???? Thta would make people "feel" good about the thought of saving the planet......

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296103 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:33 am to
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The F250 figs are just as annoying and ignorant


Youre not pulling a boat with your precious mini cooper or whatever you drive.
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