re: End of white male doctors

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Finally, it is a must to demonstrate a calling to medicine and to talk about overcoming something pretty freaking substantial in your life on your personal statement

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What? How many kids raised by responsible parents have a substantial hurdle to overcome? This is a terrible metric. My kids don't have white privilege, they have responsible parents privilege. Should I have screwed them up somehow so they have a story to tell? Should they conjure a sob story?

News story in 2027 "Seventy percent of first year medical students report being molested, the other thirty percent were victims of alcoholic parents' physical abuse."

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The most important test is board certification.

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Dear Lord help this poor brainwashed soul!

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Black applicants with lower scores are being accepted because they are black

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And is that the proxy for overall quality? Board scores are board scores, but a Step 1 and Step 2 scores certainly do not feel like the final determination of physician quality, in my experience, which is obviously not as extensive as yours. In the particular cohort highlighted, in a very strong MCAT bracket (I think, as I took the newer version), it seems that the distinction is intra-cohort, rather than extra-cohort, meaning they are being compared to other applicants in the same demographic. Like I said before, a person with that GPA and MCAT scores (which convert to the 60th and 74th percentile) has a 66% chance of getting into medical school regardless of race, according to the 2016(?) AAMC data, if I recall. That seems to be the only way of making the data make sense, given the overall demographic data and acceptance rates, which like I said, shows that white applicants have a higher acceptance rate than black applicants by at least 5 points, and for the 2013-14 application year, it was 12 points. In the cohort the AEI seems to highlight, it suggests that the black applicants who do meet that threshold are more likely to get in because there might be far fewer of them, given that the overall applications by black students has never exceeded 5000 except for the 2021 year. But again, given the changes that the AAMC made to demographic reporting, why the AEI decided to settle on only four categories when the AAMC has 18 distinct categories for this type of demographic information makes me suspect of their interpretation of the data.

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And is that the proxy for overall quality? Board scores are board scores, but a Step 1 and Step 2 scores certainly do not feel like the final determination of physician quality, in my experience, which is obviously not as extensive as yours.

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So your answer to all of this is that test scores don’t really matter?

Pretty convenient statement from someone who already got into medical school

Maybe you can explain how race is a proxy for quality? And if it isn’t then why is it on the application at all?

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Seem to remember the breakdown was something like 50% white, 48% Asian, 1% Latino, and 1% black. But, we can’t have that because it is ‘unfair’ so we have to do it a different way.

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The matriculation rate for white people alone is around 60% right now. Asians make up 22% of the overall student body, black people come in at 7 percent, Hispanic peoples at 6 percent and around 4 percent 'other.'

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So completing medical school, residency and becoming board certified is secondary to someone's MCAT score in regards to medical competence?

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You are intentionally playing dumb. Which isn’t hard for you.

Black students that don’t have the scores to get in are getting in. Then they get accepted to residencies with lower step 1 and step 2 scores.

And all you have to talk about is board certification which is a joke. It has like a 99% pass rate.

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So completing medical school, residency and becoming board certified is secondary to someone's MCAT score in regards to medical competence?

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I dont think that medical schools should consider race when determining who they accept. I also don’t think they should only consider gpa or mcat. I don’t think a survey of patients proves otherwise.

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You are the one suggesting that a person passing all their in service exams, Step 1, 2 and 3, and then completing residency and passing their boards isn't qualified to practice medicine.

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I never said they weren’t qualified to practice medicine. I said a more qualified person never got a shot because of their skin color.

Stop putting words in my mouth and see the law school data I just posted.

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So your answer to all of this is that test scores don’t really matter?

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My god I wish they mattered to a greater degree, given how well I did. For me, doing well just allowed me to focus on areas which I felt were extremely important, like communicating with laypeople, or remembering to think of the big picture (as in being thoughtful about what tests to order for what goals). But I don't think they are examples of mid-career quality. I'm open to arguments otherwise though.

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. Everyone isn’t meant to be a doctor

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Of course, but overcoming some monumental hardship should not qualify or disqualify a person.