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re: Employers in California are no longer allowed to ask about your salary history
Posted on 1/7/18 at 12:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 1/7/18 at 12:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Wtf does this have to do with pot? 
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Posted on 1/7/18 at 12:58 pm to PuntBamaPunt
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Wtf does this have to do with pot?
It has to do with stupid laws of the nanny state
Salary negotiations are a voluntary interaction between employee and employer. Government intervening is a huge infringement on those rights.
I always ask about salary history. It benefits both sides.
Posted on 1/7/18 at 1:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I always ask about salary history. It benefits both sides.
No, it does not ever benefit the job seeker. It's like asking someone what were their other estimates on a house renovation. The question asker will get the benefit, otherwise why ask it? An employer should offer what they are willing to pay, but they sure as hell twill not if they find out they can possibly get a new employee for much less.
Posted on 1/7/18 at 1:08 pm to Will Cover
Real simple.
You don't have to tell me but your application gets trashed if you don't voluntarily provide the info.
You don't have to tell me but your application gets trashed if you don't voluntarily provide the info.
Posted on 1/7/18 at 1:13 pm to East Coast Band
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No, it does not ever benefit the job seeker.
Someone doesn't actually hire people.
I'll not waste a persons time if their salary history is out of my league, and I'll certainly consider someone younger if their salary history is more reasonable.
It helps weed out people, and it helps younger, less experienced people get in the door
Posted on 1/7/18 at 1:17 pm to Will Cover
Meh, most places ask for desired salary more than requesting a history. I don’t see how this really helps anything, except being some feel good legislation.
Posted on 1/7/18 at 1:18 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I'll not waste a persons time if their salary history is out of my league, and I'll certainly consider someone younger if their salary history is more reasonable.
It helps weed out people, and it helps younger, less experienced people get in the door
Salary offerings should come from the employer first. Pehaps, if you are worried about "wasting a person's time", tell them initially what you plan to offer as a salary. It will leave it to the prospective new employee if he'd continue withe seeking the job.
Employers won't do this, because it does not benefit them. don't sugar coat it, you know this is how this works.
Posted on 1/7/18 at 1:20 pm to East Coast Band
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Salary offerings should come from the employer first
Salary history is a tool to help find people who may fit in with you organization, like work history and education
Posted on 1/7/18 at 1:21 pm to ehidal1
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I don’t see how this really helps anything, except being some feel good legislation.
If they really cared about women, they would use the weekly rather than the daily standard for overtime. With the daily standard, a parent-teacher conference or doctor's appointment means your next paycheck is smaller - you can't work 9 hours the next three days to make up the list time.
Technically her husband can go to those but it usually doesn't work that way.
Posted on 1/7/18 at 1:21 pm to Will Cover
Is it that hard to figure out how much they made at Starbucks?
Posted on 1/7/18 at 1:27 pm to Crow Pie
If the disparity was actually there businesses would only hire women and save 28% of their payroll budget
Posted on 1/7/18 at 1:35 pm to slackster
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I'm not really sure the law is necessary either though
It’s not needed. It’s feel good legislation to proved that Dems CARE about people and are looking to end the non-existent pay gap. This will not change anything. Good negotiators will still get better pay than poor negotiators.
Posted on 1/7/18 at 2:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Salary history is a tool to help find people who may fit in with you organization, like work history and education
You say all these things, yet you said it's not held against an employee I'd they're underpaid. The fact of the matter is being underpaid hurts you tremendously. Prospective employers will use it to under pay you too, and they'll argue your lower salary history proves you deserve less.
This legislation is pretty mediocre, but it gives job seekers slightly more help. It's a question that only hurts you.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:30 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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I can see the rationale. It can lead to jealousy issues.
I had a job a few years ago where I was in on choosing my replacement so I could take on different duties. I don't know what we ended up paying her and I don't care. But most people would be jealous if the new person started out at a higher amount.
That's what an employer will tell you. The reality is that new hires often make more than people who have stayed with their company for several years.
If you want to increase your pay, you really need to change companies every 5-6 years.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 11:13 pm to Will Cover
So can employees in return not tell others that work for the company what they make?
Posted on 1/11/18 at 11:22 pm to slackster
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I mean these companies usually have policies that bar discussing wages among coworkers,
I’m almost positive this is illegal.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 3:22 am to upgrayedd
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The only people it helps are the ones that aren't really worth a shite.
bullshite.
Don’t act like jobs whose employers try to lowball is rare.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 5:53 am to Esquire
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I mean these companies usually have policies that bar discussing wages among coworkers,
I’m almost positive this is illegal.
Yes, it is a violation of Federal labor laws. You cannot retaliate against employees for discussing compensation with other employees.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 7:32 am to BACONisMEATcandy
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If the disparity was actually there businesses would only hire women and save 28% of their payroll budget
And that, ladies and gents, is how you gut a false narrative.
Well said, Bacon.
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