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Embattled developer D.R. Horton 'vigorously denies' its homes can't handle La's humidity

Posted on 4/14/22 at 8:43 am
Posted by goofball
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Posted on 4/14/22 at 8:43 am
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Embattled developer D.R. Horton 'vigorously denies' its homes can't handle Louisiana humidity



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National developer D.R. Horton "vigorously" denies building homes incapable of withstanding Louisiana's humidity, and says a proposed class action lawsuit that makes such claims is improper because arbitration is the agreed-upon remedy.

Attorneys for D.R. Horton Inc. — Gulf Coast say the lawsuit filed last month is premature and filed in an improper venue — Baton Rouge state court — because the plaintiffs' contract with D.R. Horton contains a binding arbitration clause covering the substance of the dispute.

"Plaintiffs cannot avoid mandatory arbitration by attempting to pursue a class action in state court," company lawyers James Brown, Charles Wilmore and Courtney Harper Turkington argue in court papers filed in the 19th Judicial District Court.


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Lance Unglesby, one of the plaintiffs' lawyers, said Wednesday it was anticipated that D.R. Horton would move to compel arbitration "in an effort to avoid being held responsible for its treatment of hard-working Louisiana citizens" and to "further frustrate its homebuyers."

"Given the mounting evidence of D.R. Horton's defective work and systematic fraudulent misrepresentations to its homebuyers regarding the quality and construction of its Louisiana homes, we are confident that D.R. Horton will be held accountable," he said.


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The lawyers allege that D.R. Horton and one of its subcontractors, Bell Mechanical Services, knowingly constructed homes that cannot weather Louisiana humidity. The attorneys also claim the builder and its HVAC subcontractor did not properly address homeowner concerns raised during new home warranty periods.

Youngsville Mayor Ken Ritter, who was a member of the city council in 2014, said last month he plans to propose stricter building codes in response to the lawsuit.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28522 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 8:48 am to
Curious - in what way should a home in Louisiana be built differently than a home in a not so humid area?
Posted by YOURADHERE
Member since Dec 2006
8018 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 8:53 am to
Wasn't this the suit that involved a bunch of homes in Youngsville constructed back around 2014/2015? I'd be curious to know if any of those homes flooded in 2016 as many in Youngsville did. DR Horton has a shitty reputation but not being able to handle humidity seems like a bit of a reach.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58028 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 8:53 am to
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says a proposed class action lawsuit that makes such claims is improper because arbitration is the agreed-upon remedy.


frick that noise.

they're guilty as hell if that's how they want to deal w/the people they've screwed.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65423 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 8:53 am to
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Courtney Harper Turkington
Courtney and her dad caught imitating our Alabama neighbors on her wedding day.

Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120121 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 8:55 am to
Courtney could have bought a nicer house if she hadnt wasted 100k on her dream wedding
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78818 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 8:56 am to
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Curious - in what way should a home in Louisiana be built differently than a home in a not so humid area?


They used cheap materials which fail far more rapidly than better, more durable ones. I watched a show about it 2 weeks back and they had interviews with several DR Horton homeowners and there were several cases of black mold.

People moved out yet are paying their mortgage on a house they can't live in. It's a crappy situation all around.
Posted by MsState of mind
State of Denial
Member since Aug 2013
2635 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 8:57 am to
So they agreed to at it ration but frick them for making people do what both sides agree too. Yeah okay
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
65423 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 9:04 am to
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Courtney could have bought a nicer house if she hadnt wasted 100k on her dream wedding
Courtney is an attorney in the firm defending Horton.
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
2950 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 9:05 am to
DR Horton cuts corners in every way to keep their costs low and their profits high. When you use substandard materials, substandard illegal builders working under cheap contractors you get what you pay for. The plumbing, electrical and HVAC contractors are usually guys that you would see in home warranty circles also, not the ones that you would want building your home. It all adds up after a while and the house begins to have issues in 2-3 years usually. Trust me I went through it back in the day. The AC lasted 3 years upstairs with their contractor special. But there were other issues that kept happening because of placement of returns and whatnot. frick DR Horton and cheap homebuilders. I hope they get their arse handed to them.
Posted by Auburntiger
BTR area
Member since Mar 2005
13290 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 9:11 am to
My pervious home was a DR Horton home. We were the original owners. Overall it was a very well built home. The only issue we had was that the AC unit was severely undersized for the home. (system was installed by Bell Mechanical). It absolutely could NOT keep the house cool in the heat of summer. After a few years of dealing with this I actually had a 2nd AC unit installed and created a split system. I never had any issues after that.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 9:12 am to
Didn’t Stout post pics of some DRH homes in a thread recently? Some of the pics were pretty incriminating of whoever that builder was.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
34849 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 9:26 am to
Who is inspecting these homes before people buy them?
Posted by TexasTiger90
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Jul 2014
3576 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 9:26 am to
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they're guilty as hell if that's how they want to deal w/the people they've screwed.

You mean abiding by the contract both parties signed? You must be a crazy person
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30645 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 9:28 am to
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Bell Mechanical Services, knowingly constructed homes that cannot weather Louisiana humidity. The attorneys also claim the builder and its HVAC subcontractor did not properly address homeowner concerns raised during new home warranty periods.


Bell Mechanical is garbage.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62698 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 9:30 am to
It's not just the humidity. Its the wind, rain and sun.
shite built homes result in shite results.
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11071 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 9:37 am to
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D.R. Horton


Dog shite... pure dog shite. God bless the poor souls that have purchased anything built by DR Horton
Posted by Emteein
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
3885 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 9:37 am to
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Curious - in what way should a home in Louisiana be built differently than a home in a not so humid area?



Mostly in the construction of the building envelope and the HVAC system is where the humidity issue really come from. If you have inside humidity issues, it really doesn't matter what materials you use, high humidity will get you eventually.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30940 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 9:37 am to
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DR Horton cuts corners in every way to keep their costs low and their profits high. When you use substandard materials, substandard illegal builders working under cheap contractors you get what you pay for. The plumbing, electrical and HVAC contractors are usually guys that you would see in home warranty circles also, not the ones that you would want building your home. It all adds up after a while and the house begins to have issues in 2-3 years usually. Trust me I went through it back in the day. The AC lasted 3 years upstairs with their contractor special. But there were other issues that kept happening because of placement of returns and whatnot. frick DR Horton and cheap homebuilders. I hope they get their arse handed to them.




jesus, they use the same damn materials as everyone else. atleast structurally. they are required to by code and every house has to be inspected.

the placement of returns is based off the cfm and humidity and there are tons of issues in South la with non dr horton homes.

everyone talks shite about dr horton, but during Laura their homes faired way way better than the so called well built older homes.

and thier will always be a market for cheap homebuilders. not everyone can afford a custom home.

you knew going in you were buying a contractor grade home made with the cheapest materials allowed by code.

and im sorry but the lawsuit is bullshite imo. if there was a humidity problem in the house then all they had to do was have an AC guy come out and take readings for humidty, check cfms etc. from there its as simple as adding returns, making returns open air if spray foamed or adding return in the attic, and changing the air handler/unit to meet the requirements.

i just had to do this on a house that was a custom home built in 2011 because it was a spray foam house built without open returns. had another return added and a return added in the attic. this solved the humidty issue both in the house and the attic. cost 5k cause i had the air handler changed also, if not would have been about 1k.


ftr i do not have a dr horton home and wouldnt and their are much better homebuilders for those types of homes that are much better. but lets not act like Dr horton doesnt build thousands of homes that have no issues.
This post was edited on 4/14/22 at 9:39 am
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 9:41 am to
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Who is inspecting these homes before people buy them?


Now we're getting somewhere. Follow the trail of cash that the inspectors are dropping.
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