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re: Elon Musk just said in 15-20 years work will be "optional" (don't shoot the messenger)

Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:26 am to
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36189 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:26 am to
quote:

My job is less than 1% of who I am and I wouldn’t have it any other way.


This.
Posted by ImJustaBoy
Member since Oct 2023
1849 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:26 am to
I can’t wait. fricke I can’t wait. Jobs are so bullshite, bosses are terrible, work cultures are terrible, pay scales are so low, and the cherry on top is that organizations aren’t just rejecting WFH, they also are rejecting hybrid models. Oh I can’t wait to never have to deal with this shite anymore and just live like the Natives in 1810.
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 11:00 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94610 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:27 am to
After I will have worked my entire life and retired already?

Nice.
Posted by LSUScores
Member since Oct 2015
1299 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:27 am to
I would add my faith to your list
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
52869 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:27 am to
quote:

Right in my retirement window

Yep. In 15-20 years I'll be 62-67. Amazing timing for me
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119356 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:27 am to
He’s a clown.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
147849 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:29 am to
Elon is way off on this.

Work is already optional.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36189 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:29 am to
quote:

would add my faith to your list

Absolutely.

My job is so far down the list of what makes me who I am.

It kinda makes me feel bad for people who define themselves by their work.
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
27288 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:31 am to
Assuming Mankind and the Earth are around for another million years, we'll have lived in the small blip of time when everything changed.

Posted by Sunnyvale
Member since Feb 2024
2083 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:33 am to
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/this-old-experiment-with-mice-led-to-bleak-predictions-for-humanitys-future-180954423/

quote:

What does utopia look like for mice and rats? According to a researcher who did most of his work in the 1950s through 1970s, it might include limitless food, multiple levels and secluded little condos. These were all part of John Calhoun’s experiments to study the effects of population density on behavior. But what looked like rodent paradises at first quickly spiraled into out-of-control overcrowding, eventual population collapse and seemingly sinister behavior patterns.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69390 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:36 am to
how will people get by without a job
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94610 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:36 am to
This mice experiment is "must read" for any serious person.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23362 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:36 am to
Elon says alot of speculative shite that may have no real basis in reality.
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
6237 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:37 am to
quote:

Right in my retirement window



Way too late for me.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
12693 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:39 am to
I'll echo the other two posters that said work already is optional.

If DOGE and the shutdown didn't already show us there are those on what amounts to UBI and happy to not work or contribute... well, I don't know what to tell you.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
18976 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:42 am to
quote:

Elon Musk said that the goods and services available in the future of mankind will be almost free of cost.

Musk emphasized how people will have access to tens of billions of robots that will be made to help you with a service for ‘basically next to nothing.’

quote:

“Goods and services will become close to free. It's not as though people will be wanting in terms of goods and services. You have tens of billions of robots that will make you anything or provide any service you want for basically next to nothing,” said Musk in the interview.

Musk said that this move towards artificial intelligence and robots will, in turn, help humans have a higher standard of living, but the only concern for the people will be to acheive the emotion of fulfilment.

“It's not that people will have a lower standard of living, they'll actually have a much higher standard of living. The challenge will be fulfilment. How do you derive fulfilment and meaning in life?” Musk told Ted Cruz.


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This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 10:44 am
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10460 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:42 am to
Elon is referring effect AI and robots will have on out lives in 15-20. In the AI arena, 15-20 years is a long arse time. I've heard him mention something similar in that time frame regarding AI/Robots will provide pretty much everything you need for day-to-day living.

There's not many that get my attention. Elon is one of the few.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
90092 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Work is already optional.

Take a look at my cousin. He's broke, don't do shite.
exactly, look at all the bums we've had for years that live off the government tit.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7691 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:53 am to
The positive spin would be people could devote their time to doing what they like: creating art, gardening, hobbies, etc.

But the reality is that most people are stupid and will eat, drink, binge watch themselves to death.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6882 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 11:01 am to
quote:

Elon is referring effect AI and robots will have on out lives in 15-20. In the AI arena, 15-20 years is a long arse time. I've heard him mention something similar in that time frame regarding AI/Robots will provide pretty much everything you need for day-to-day living.

There's not many that get my attention. Elon is one of the few.


Doesn't address the issue of resources. If work is what is supposed to fulfill me right now, and work is absent in the future, my fulfillment will come from hobbies that are in higher execution. Fishing for example. Fish will be overfished. Deer will be overhunted or there just won't be any huntable land. Lot of questions unanswered.

I could enjoy a life where a 40+ hour workweek isn't the standard. We've progressed so much as a society but the workweek has never been reconsidered. We spend the majority of 5 of the 7 days out of the week doing something for someone we care nothing about and they only demand more more more while trying to keep paying you less.
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