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re: Elementary school shooting in Uvalde, TX...19 children and two adults killed
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:48 am to England_Pelican
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:48 am to England_Pelican
This situation, like many major issues in today’s world, is complex.
I’ll start by saying I’m a gun-owner, and the events over the past few years have only reinforced my decision to purchase firearms. Our government does have a desire to control the population more, and they will also stand by idly while your shite is destroyed by people angered over criminals dying at the hands of law enforcement.
Next, I’m a teacher. Thus, I am very concerned about this incident (and all other school shootings) and what, if any, progress has been made to prevent further tragedy.
Many questions need to be answered:
**How should the school be secured? How was it secured? What can be made better?
**This person was mentally ill. Were there red flags? If so, was any action taken? It didn’t help, why not?
**Were guns purchased/owned legally? If not, how were they obtained? What can we do to deter the illegal sale of firearms?
These are just some of the questions facing this country, and unfortunately, will probably be the same ones we ask again. Vegas, El Paso, Sandy Hook, Columbine, Parkland, San Bernardino, Orlando, Buffalo, Aurora, the list goes on.
This will require major resources, and some compromise from both sides of the gun debate, red flag debate, and mental health debate.
I’ll start by saying I’m a gun-owner, and the events over the past few years have only reinforced my decision to purchase firearms. Our government does have a desire to control the population more, and they will also stand by idly while your shite is destroyed by people angered over criminals dying at the hands of law enforcement.
Next, I’m a teacher. Thus, I am very concerned about this incident (and all other school shootings) and what, if any, progress has been made to prevent further tragedy.
Many questions need to be answered:
**How should the school be secured? How was it secured? What can be made better?
**This person was mentally ill. Were there red flags? If so, was any action taken? It didn’t help, why not?
**Were guns purchased/owned legally? If not, how were they obtained? What can we do to deter the illegal sale of firearms?
These are just some of the questions facing this country, and unfortunately, will probably be the same ones we ask again. Vegas, El Paso, Sandy Hook, Columbine, Parkland, San Bernardino, Orlando, Buffalo, Aurora, the list goes on.
This will require major resources, and some compromise from both sides of the gun debate, red flag debate, and mental health debate.
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:49 am to AMS
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ban guns then people just start using household chemicals to make toxic gases killing masses. or pipe bombs, tannerite etc.
You REALLY think that’s right?
I better be on the look out for someone running into a school with some fricking toilet cleaner then.
It’s easy to get a gun and easy to shoot someone…. It’s not very easy to make a chemical bomb (I would think) … so if you’re a bit unhinged, not having easy access to a gun is probably a good idea huh?
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:53 am to TideCPA
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suspect also allegedly shot and killed his grandmother
Will be interesting to see how this unfolds.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:58 am to England_Pelican
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In my 40 year life we’ve had one mass school shooting over here…. One. Nobody feels the need for guns…nobody feels schools need security guards.
The UK banned blades longer than 3 inches
you can come off your soap box now. 
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:58 am to England_Pelican
quote:it really is. It helps good law abiding people feel safe from criminals that will obtain a gun illegally even if they are banned. Shootings here won’t magically stop bc gun possession is illegal
Gun ownership is clearly the winner you absolute clown.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:58 am to England_Pelican
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not having easy access to a gun is probably a good idea huh?
Friend, you’re going to make a bunch of great points, but your efforts will be wasted on this board. Gun control will never be accepted in the US until everything, including another Civil War, has been tried first.
People show their true feelings with their blood and their money. They’re shedding both at this very moment on the principle that they’re better off with unfettered access to guns. It does not matter how good your reasoning. This nation is entrenched.
Use your efforts elsewhere. This is no place to win over hearts and minds. Most here have neither.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:01 am to justice
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Shootings here won’t magically stop bc gun possession is illegal
Are you sure… that is absolutely the case every where else in the western world
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:02 am to victoire sécurisé
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Friend
Thank you sir.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:04 am to justice
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Shootings here won’t magically stop bc gun possession is illegal
This argument always makes me wonder why there aren’t more RPG volleys in gang fights.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:15 am to victoire sécurisé
quote:you think criminals will just magically turn in their guns and never obtain one illegally? Considering how many guns are in circulation comparing guns to RPGs is just dumb. But let’s create more victims by taking away guns from law abiding citizens. Makes sense.
This argument always makes me wonder why there aren’t more RPG volleys in gang fights.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:17 am to England_Pelican
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England_Pelican
America has far fewer mass genocides that the rest of the world which have resulted in the deaths of kids nearing the tens of millions.
We’re still way ahead because we allow people to arm themselves, dipshit.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:20 am to justice
I wonder why more RPG’s aren’t in circulation. Is it because
A). There’s no demand.
B). Manufacturers can’t make profit on them.
Or
C). The law is an effective deterrent?
A). There’s no demand.
B). Manufacturers can’t make profit on them.
Or
C). The law is an effective deterrent?
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:22 am to England_Pelican
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You REALLY think that’s right?
I better be on the look out for someone running into a school with some fricking toilet cleaner then.
It’s easy to get a gun and easy to shoot someone…. It’s not very easy to make a chemical bomb (I would think) … so if you’re a bit unhinged, not having easy access to a gun is probably a good idea huh?
you would think wrong. its even scarier because they could set it up beforehand and the perp not even be present for the event. it would be harder to detect and prevent in action. could inflict casualties on a much larger scale.
people accidentally do it by mixing chemicals they shouldnt at home. it doesnt take einstein to figure out that household chemicals can be dangerous and weaponized rather easily.
also go look up tannerite, you can explode it by shooting it attached to an arrow, shooting it with a bb gun, or even a slingshot. its killed people when used in freaking gender reveals and is much less expensive than a gun. 50 lbs for 100bucks.
there are much scarier, equally legal and accessible things as guns.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:25 am to victoire sécurisé
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wonder why more RPG’s aren’t in circulation. Is it because A). There’s no demand. B). Manufacturers can’t make profit on them. Or C). The law is an effective deterrent?
Now do fentanyl
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:33 am to Robin Masters
Now do large exotic cats.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:35 am to victoire sécurisé
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Now do large exotic cats.
Which one is the leading cause of death for 18-40 again?
Moar regulation!!!!
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:45 am to Robin Masters
Government regulation actually does work to some degree when there is public support of it. There is less fentanyl available because it is illegal and regularly seized.
The same could be true for murder weapons, but there’s hardly any public will for it. Most of the US believes that we’re safer if everybody has unfettered access to guns. That’s our choice, and we’re willing to die on that hill. Fine.
But don’t feed me a line of bullshite that government regulation can’t work. RPG’s are cheap, easy to make and yet still scarce because there’s powerful public will to regulate them and punish violators.
We don’t have open RPG carry laws being proposed because that’s insane.
The same could be true for murder weapons, but there’s hardly any public will for it. Most of the US believes that we’re safer if everybody has unfettered access to guns. That’s our choice, and we’re willing to die on that hill. Fine.
But don’t feed me a line of bullshite that government regulation can’t work. RPG’s are cheap, easy to make and yet still scarce because there’s powerful public will to regulate them and punish violators.
We don’t have open RPG carry laws being proposed because that’s insane.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:51 am to victoire sécurisé
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Government regulation actually does work to some degree when there is public support of it. There is less fentanyl available because it is illegal and regularly seized.
The same could be true for murder weapons, but there’s hardly any public will for it. Most of the US believes that we’re safer if everybody has unfettered access to guns. That’s our choice, and we’re willing to die on that hill. Fine.
regulation actually does work to some degree when there is public support of it. There is less fentanyl available because it is illegal and regularly seized. The same could be true for murder weapons, but there’s hardly any public will for it. Most of the US believes that we’re safer if everybody has unfettered access to guns. That’s our choice, and we’re willing to die on that hill. Fine.
Ummm….
Oh, and we have the highest incarceration rate in the civilized world. Let’s not act like our government is soft on criminals and there is no threat of punishment.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:54 am to victoire sécurisé
Yeah the major flaw with your bullshite analysis is that there aren't already 300+ million RPGs in circulation within the US.
If every single law-abiding citizen turned in their guns you'd still have millions of guns in the hands of criminals... you know, the people who don't give a frick about your laws.
If every single law-abiding citizen turned in their guns you'd still have millions of guns in the hands of criminals... you know, the people who don't give a frick about your laws.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:58 am to Robin Masters
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Let’s not act like our government is soft on criminals and there is no threat of punishment
WTF are you talking about? The vast majority of shooters have a criminal history... with most not allowed to even LEGALLY possess a firearm. The justice system is a huge revolving door.
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