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goofball
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Editorial on St George: Now we’re embracing the greater good
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Regardless of how the St. George incorporation vote turns out, it’s been remarkably fascinating to witness so many people in East Baton Rouge Parish step out of the shadows and profess their love for the ideal known as “the greater good.”

No lie, it’s been a gobsmacking experience to see a place whose usual M.O. is a perverse devotion to parochialism rise up and embrace the notion of self-sacrifice for the betterment of all.

Yet that’s the exact drumbeat case being made by a chorus of Baton Rougeans who oppose some 86,000 unincorporated residents of the parish becoming some 86,000 incorporated residents of the parish. This choir of the better together would be fine if those residents were choosing to incorporate as part of the city of Baton Rouge; but doing so as the city of St. George is a crime against all things good government.


He’s going in dry.
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Most interesting in this St. George opera has been the 11th-hour emergence of some two dozen prominent business leaders who, in a hallelujah moment of greater good clarity, joined hands to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony while declaring their opposition to largely middle-class residents forming their own city.

It was an A-list gathering of the business elite. People who matter in this “who you know” town. People like John Engquist, Sean Reilly, Donna Saurage, Richard Lipsey, Shawn Usher and—in absentia—Jim Bernhard and Mike Wampold.




None of those vocal, wealthy St George opponents would ever send their kids to public school anyway.

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By my count, exactly zero of the well-meaning business leaders decrying St. George have uttered word one of greater good complaint about the independent taxing authority enjoyed by the school system, BREC, the library system, CATS or the nongovernmental Council on Aging. Talk about additional layers of government.


I guess they’d rather that the people they employee commute in from Ascension or Livingston.


SlackMaster
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None of those vocal, wealthy St George opponents would ever send their kids to public school anyway.


I think they've been pretty clear that they too don't like the status quo, but don't believe that splitting up the city is the answer. The message is that we'd make more progress overall if we work together.


rowbear1922
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I think they've been pretty clear that they too don't like the status quo, but don't believe that splitting up the city is the answer. The message is that we'd make more progress overall if we work together.


The thing is, StG is not "splitting up the city". They are forming a city out of previously unincorporated land. The city had 30 years to incorporate the area but refused. When they then refused to allow the area to have an ISD, the residents took matters into their own hands.

Now that we are a mere ~80ish hours until the fat cats in the city have to learn how to fend for themselves without outside money, they are freaking out. They want the tax money from the area but don't want to allow the residents any say in where it goes.
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msutiger
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Now that we are a mere ~80ish hours until the fat cats in the city have to learn how to fend for themselves without outside money, they are freaking out. They want the tax money from the area but don't want to allow the residents in say in where it goes.


It is gonna be a joy to watch. frick the government. Every level of it in every city and state. They are all crooks.


TDsngumbo
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re: Editorial on St George: Now we’re embracing the greater good
As an Ascension resident, I’m just ready for this fricking vote so I don’t have to hear about this shite one way or another any longer.


jbgleason
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re: Editorial on St George: Now we’re embracing the greater good
I just like to post in every one of these threads, because I know the Mayors Office is reading them, that they had the chance to grant St. George their ISD and NONE OF THIS would have happened. But they thought they could bully the people and they were oh so wrong. Reap what you sow folks.


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The message is that we'd make more progress overall if we work together.


Because we've accomplished so much in our public education systems up until now


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splitting up the city

wut


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teke184
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re: Editorial on St George: Now we’re embracing the greater good
You are going to hear about it for the rest of your time in South Louisiana.

St George wins and the city of BR will try every legal tactic possible to stall or overturn the vote.

It fails and this will either be repeatedly brought up as the point at which EBR went beyond saving or as an example of racist white people losing, depending on which side you ask.


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re: Editorial on St George: Now we’re embracing the greater good
St. George will marginally disrupt the lives of those opposed. If they would just shut up and breathe and think, they would not let it bother them at all.

Make up your mind Gravy. You want us out or in? The racist lot of us that is.


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...but would be roughly 7,000 residents larger than Lake Charles.




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but don't believe that splitting up the city is the answer.


Good, because that's not what's happening.


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SlowFlowPro
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The message is that we'd make more progress overall if we work together.

considering the EBR government has continuously denied giving the area an ISD or any other reasonable request related to public education in the area, this is a completely bull shite comment. the whole reason StG is occurring is b/c those in power of EBR refused to "work together"


teke184
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re: Editorial on St George: Now we’re embracing the greater good
The average person opposed? Probably not very affected.

All those politicians and influential donors? Very affected by power and money being taken away from the city of BR and given back to the people of St George.


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MrLSU
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I guess they’d rather that the people they employee commute in from Ascension or Livingston


No it has nothing to do with that rather these people oppose St George because they know the additional tax burden is going to fall on them when the split takes effect.
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ProjectP2294
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but don't believe that splitting up the city is the answer.


From the looks of the proposed boundaries, the St George people don't believe in the splitting up the city either.


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goofball
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re: Editorial on St George: Now we’re embracing the greater good
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but don't believe that splitting up the city is the answer


The city is not splitting. That’s never been proposed.

This is the kind of dishonest arguments the opponents of St George make every day. It’s never been true.
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SlackMaster
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The thing is, StG is not "splitting up the city".


That's a stupid statement. That is exactly what is happening and everybody knows it.

Anyway, I am vehemently opposed the CATS and Council on Aging taxes, and freaking hate that this issue has me arguing on the side of Together BR. But I look at it like this:

The kids in NBR don't have much and their only hope is passionate good people fighting to get the school system right. By quitting, the StG leaders are abandoning them and any real hope for change. Eddie Rispone and Art Farve are supposedly good Christian men andd I'm surprised they would finance this type of abandonment.
Is this what Jesus would call us to do?

This vote is permanent and screws alot of people -- including good people in BR like me who also want change
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goofball
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That's a stupid statement. That is exactly what is happening and everybody knows it.



What city is being split up?

No part of St George is incorporated into any city right now. None.

It’s all outside of Baton Rouge.


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SlowFlowPro
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That's a stupid statement. That is exactly what is happening and everybody knows it.

it is LITERALLY not what is happening

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The kids in NBR don't have much and their only hope is passionate good people fighting to get the school system right. By quitting, the StG leaders are abandoning them and any real hope for change. Eddie Rispone and Art Farve are supposedly good Christian men andd I'm surprised they would finance this type of abandonment.




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This vote is permanent and screws alot of people

how, specifically?


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