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EBR Parish refusing to take ownership of Gov street until DOTD fixes medians
Posted on 5/30/23 at 10:34 am
Posted on 5/30/23 at 10:34 am
I know EBR government can't even manage minor projects right now since the Holden admin. But these weird deals of local governments taking over state roads is just odd to me. Would this be necessary in a state whose department of transportation actually maintains and builds things?
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Makes sense. Some of the placements of the medians might not be ideal.
But what are the politics around this? Does the parish just get frustrated with the lack of state maintenance (a LADOTD hallmark) and decide to take it over in exchange for LADOTD actually investing in the road?
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Plans to transfer ownership of Government Street from the state to the city-parish have been further delayed due to rain extending landscaping maintenance work, according to state officials.
The Louisiana Department of Transportation and Development and the city-parish had agreed to transfer ownership of the road after the “road diet” was completed in 2021. But damage to the medians and its landscaping halted the process earlier this year.
In April, city-parish Director of Transportation and Drainage Fred Raiford told Daily Report that he was waiting on DOTD to address landscaping issues on the corridor and inform him of the damaged medians’ maintenance costs before he approves the transfer, and that he expected the transfer to be completed before the end of the month.
However, DOTD communications director Rodney Mallett says the city-parish just recently began its inspection and that the transfer will probably happen sometime this summer.
“The agreement between the city and state for the road transfer was agreed upon before the project started,” Mallett says. “Once the project is completed to the satisfaction of the city and they accept it, the mayor and secretary of DOTD sign the transfer and it goes into the record.”
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Makes sense. Some of the placements of the medians might not be ideal.
But what are the politics around this? Does the parish just get frustrated with the lack of state maintenance (a LADOTD hallmark) and decide to take it over in exchange for LADOTD actually investing in the road?
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Posted on 5/30/23 at 10:37 am to frequent flyer
frick the road diet.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 10:38 am to frequent flyer
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But what are the politics around this? Does the parish just get frustrated with the lack of state maintenance (a LADOTD hallmark) and decide to take it over in exchange for LADOTD actually investing in the road?
State and feds fix the road and give the local government a bunch of money to maintain it.
My conspiracy theory is that the parish/city doesn't have the money to maintain Government St. so they're stalling and blaming landscaping
Posted on 5/30/23 at 10:38 am to beerJeep
This.
Stick a finger down Government’s throat and purge the lanes.
Stick a finger down Government’s throat and purge the lanes.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 10:39 am to Ingeniero
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My conspiracy theory is that the parish/city doesn't have the money to maintain Government St. so they're stalling and blaming landscaping
They don’t want to be on the hook for it because that St George case coming back against them immediately fricks their budget, IMHO.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 10:50 am to frequent flyer
Some businesses and many residents along the former Government St. pushed for this implementation of a Road Diet in a belief that it would increase business and 'quite' the traffic on Government St..
The medians with plant growth routinely get run over from drunks at night leaving from bars. 18 wheeler delivery trucks just drive over those things destroying the irrigation systems in order to make deliveries to those small businesses.
It is not going to work.
The medians with plant growth routinely get run over from drunks at night leaving from bars. 18 wheeler delivery trucks just drive over those things destroying the irrigation systems in order to make deliveries to those small businesses.
It is not going to work.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 10:56 am to frequent flyer
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Does the parish just get frustrated with the lack of state maintenance (a LADOTD hallmark) and decide to take it over in exchange for LADOTD actually investing in the road?
The state DOTD gets it off of their list of responsibilities and the city parish gets to have say in everything to do with the road, but with the cost of upkeep. The CP then gets something monotrily to keep up the road. Not sure though if that is from traffic fines or some other distribution method.
DOTD
Posted on 5/30/23 at 10:57 am to Ingeniero
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My conspiracy theory is that the parish/city doesn't have the money to maintain Government St. so they're stalling and blaming landscaping
They have the money. They don't spend it wisely, but they have the cash flow to work this in easily.
What they don't have is leadership. I'm not joking - they have shelved a parking meter project downtown because they can't manage a project even that small. Broom has surrounded herself with loyal political cronies, not with competent people.
Broom would be well served by hiring competent leadership that work in her shadow. She could at least take credit for their success. That's not exclusive to Public works either. That's the real reason Holden was so well loved. Things got repaired and maintained because he hired the right people. Pot holes got patched. Catch basins got cleared. Roads were widened. And he got to show up to events and flirt with girls and shake happy voters hands.
Holden was good at politics, but he hired people with project management experience to handle a lot of the public works projects (sewer, roads, etc.). It's too bad that Broom hasn't really done that, at least not until very recently.
This post was edited on 5/30/23 at 11:01 am
Posted on 5/30/23 at 10:58 am to BigBinBR
Just wait till they shut the interstate down to one lane and traffic diverts to the one lane road diet. Fiasco.
Also they're replanting all the same stuff that died off in the freeze.
Also they're replanting all the same stuff that died off in the freeze.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 10:59 am to TigerGman
remove the medians to help out with the burnout staging along that stretch
Posted on 5/30/23 at 11:01 am to frequent flyer
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What they don't have is leadership. I'm not joking - they have shelved a parking meter project downtown because they can't manage a project even that small.
That one kind of got resolved in one of the dumbest ways possible IMHO.
They removed all the meters, put a black monolith out of 2001 on each corner, and have people entering their information there and paying by credit card.
Similar schemes ended poorly in other cities IIRC.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 11:03 am to TigerGman
The article linked blames the rain for slowing down the landscaping program, but we haven’t had much rain. Rain is always the scapegoat.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 11:36 am to teke184
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They don’t want to be on the hook for it because that St George case coming back against them immediately fricks their budget, IMHO.
Oddly enough had more taxpayer dollars been spent on schools in St. George, the whole thing would have never happened.
Still blows my mind that the will of the voters is being ignored here.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 11:42 am to SantaFe
This is what happens when you try to half arse gentrification.
You have to go hard and fast or otherwise you're stuck with the bullshite we're seeing in midcity.
You have to go hard and fast or otherwise you're stuck with the bullshite we're seeing in midcity.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 11:43 am to frequent flyer
Why does the state own govt st?
Posted on 5/30/23 at 11:48 am to dallastigers
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Why does the state own govt st?
It was the main highway between Baton Rouge and New Orleans before Airline Highway.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 11:53 am to dallastigers
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Why does the state own govt st?
Bc it’s actually state highway 73, east of Jefferson highway anyway.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 11:55 am to RougeDawg
Problem ?
Fred Raiford
Hes been in ebr govt for 40 + years
Just look at all the problems
Fred Raiford
Hes been in ebr govt for 40 + years
Just look at all the problems
Posted on 5/30/23 at 12:19 pm to frequent flyer
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I'm not joking - they have shelved a parking meter project downtown because they can't manage a project even that small.
The new meters are up everywhere. Just not online yet….but this has been years in the making it seems
This post was edited on 5/30/23 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 5/30/23 at 12:23 pm to whoa
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The new meters are up everywhere. Just not online yet….but this has been years in the making it seems
Kip was on the verge of executing a contract with a meter vendor, but when Broome took over she stopped the deal. Six plus years later and we still don’t have the new meters up and working.
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