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re: EBR Parish has spent over $700 million on traffic projects since 2006.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 8:52 am to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 12/30/16 at 8:52 am to Draconian Sanctions
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There's only so much they can do to make the traffic better without a loop,
Not true.
They could immediately widen Airline and Florida and create a wide U-turn median like on Veterans in Metairie. Pull every light on those thruways and make everything right turn only. Now you have two expressways that run North-South and East-West across the city
This post was edited on 12/30/16 at 8:57 am
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Posted on 12/30/16 at 8:54 am to Peazey
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Not saying you are wrong, but I would like to see a source on this. I was trying to look up info on this a little while ago, and I found an article that placed the state tax burden in the bottom five in the country. That is to say that we are amongst the lowest taxed in the country. That was state personal income tax. Also, Louisiana gives huge breaks to corporate income tax. Maybe you are saying that sales tax makes up the difference?
LINK
Louisiana is on the lower end of the middle. I'd imagine before JBE it was in the bottom 1/4 in taxes.
Adjusted for Cost of living it is the ninth most friendly state so you got that going for you.
This post was edited on 12/30/16 at 8:56 am
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:04 am to Dire Wolf
Cool. Thank you.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:06 am to SG_Geaux
I'd love to see a breakdown of how much money go towards each. Seems like very little considering how they keep cutting education in Louisiana.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:06 am to Antonio Moss
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They could immediately widen Airline and Florida and create a wide U-turn median like on Veterans in Metairie. Pull every light on those thruways and make everything right turn only. Now you have two expressways that run North-South and East-West across the city
I propose we commission a study to investigate the viability of such a plan
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:07 am to Draconian Sanctions
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I propose we commission a study to investigate the viability of such a plan
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:13 am to TeddyPadillac
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i refuse to give my gov't any more of my money, regardless of what it is for, until they can prove to me that they know how to manage that money correctly.
If there is a tax proposal that comes out of my pocket, i'm voting against it.
agree completely. Govt. and our elected leaders have lost any good will or benefit of the doubt when it comes to taxes and spending. I have voted against and will continue to vote against anything that raises my taxes regardless of what its for, until a true accounting of the spending is presented to me.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:18 am to tduecen
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I'd love to see a breakdown of how much money go towards each. Seems like very little considering how they keep cutting education in Louisiana.
This is great article i have posted several times on here. Where corrupt states spend their money
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The study found that high levels of corruption in a state can shape its budget allocation. More corrupt states tended to spend money on construction, highways, and police protection programs, which provide more opportunity for corrupt officials to use public money for their own gain. These states spend less on health, education, and welfare, which provide less opportunity for officials to collect bribes, according to Indiana University's John Mikesell, who co-authored the report with Cheol Liu of the University of Hong Kong.
"We need to cut taxes but my cousin needs to keep his highway contract" State Rep. pick a parish
This post was edited on 12/30/16 at 9:20 am
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:21 am to lnomm34
The fact that our elected political officials and alleged community leaders daisy-chained two proposals that were dependent upon each other passing shows you how little forethought and vision exists amongst them.
The voters aren't to be blamed when leaders are foolish. The leaders played a stupid game and won a stupid prize. It's like a dumbass contestant on Let's Make A Deal chose a donkey behind Door #2 when they already had a new car and $10,000 and you're blaming the show producers for putting the Donkey behind Door #2.
Our leaders are feckless, power hungry rubes and dilletentes. Their performance and their behavior actively prevents true leaders from even considering to work with them for fear of being disgraced or infested with the fleas on the dogs already there.
The voters aren't to be blamed when leaders are foolish. The leaders played a stupid game and won a stupid prize. It's like a dumbass contestant on Let's Make A Deal chose a donkey behind Door #2 when they already had a new car and $10,000 and you're blaming the show producers for putting the Donkey behind Door #2.
Our leaders are feckless, power hungry rubes and dilletentes. Their performance and their behavior actively prevents true leaders from even considering to work with them for fear of being disgraced or infested with the fleas on the dogs already there.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:26 am to LSUBoo
Raising the gas tax for the sole purpose of funding transportation projects in the entire state is a necessary evil and the State knows it will have a hard sell to it's inhabitants.
But hear this...the revenue from the hike will be immediate, thus leading to projects being designed this year. We're talking $700MM in tax revenue solely for transportation infrastructure projects--roads, bridges, ports, rail.
To put in numbers terms, if the hike is 20 cents/gal and the average driver in Louisiana buys 700 gallons (15,000 miles/year with a Ford F-150 getting 22 MPG average) of gasoline in a single year, that's $140 a year more in taxes for that person. Let's say that's a round $200/year, or $16.67/month.
People will say, "Oh, that's probably less than what you spend at Starbucks in a month...a week even!" And that's not to say stop buying Starbucks, but it should put into perspective that if you can spend money on coffee you can certainly pony up less than $20/month for transportation projects in your state.
We are in dire need of change in this state. And believe it or not, if you want to get your arse out of traffic everyday and keep insurance rates on your vehicles from climbing and maintain the shocks and tires on your cars and trucks, you are going to have to pay as a society to improve the state's infrastructure.
But hear this...the revenue from the hike will be immediate, thus leading to projects being designed this year. We're talking $700MM in tax revenue solely for transportation infrastructure projects--roads, bridges, ports, rail.
To put in numbers terms, if the hike is 20 cents/gal and the average driver in Louisiana buys 700 gallons (15,000 miles/year with a Ford F-150 getting 22 MPG average) of gasoline in a single year, that's $140 a year more in taxes for that person. Let's say that's a round $200/year, or $16.67/month.
People will say, "Oh, that's probably less than what you spend at Starbucks in a month...a week even!" And that's not to say stop buying Starbucks, but it should put into perspective that if you can spend money on coffee you can certainly pony up less than $20/month for transportation projects in your state.
We are in dire need of change in this state. And believe it or not, if you want to get your arse out of traffic everyday and keep insurance rates on your vehicles from climbing and maintain the shocks and tires on your cars and trucks, you are going to have to pay as a society to improve the state's infrastructure.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:27 am to The Sad Banana
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"Oh, that's probably less than what you spend at Starbucks in a month...a week even!"
That's a lot more than I spend at Starbucks in a month... a year even.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:32 am to tigerinthebueche
I'm pissed that the green light project tax that had somewhat of a plan and would likely have a positive impact didnt pass, but that stupid fricking council on aging tax, which had no plan for where the money is going and will do nothing for the vast majority of the people in the parish, passed.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:35 am to The Sad Banana
I hear what you are saying but we have paid and the citizens are tired of paying. Every time a new tax is proposed it is sold as "this tax will fix XXXX" and XXXX never gets fixed.
Fool me once shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
Fool me once shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:38 am to OneMoreTime
The council of aging in br is a total crock of shite.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:40 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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The Beipanjiang Bridge took three years to build, cost more than $146.7 million dollars, and stretches to be 4,396 feet long.
So the bridge isn't a mile long.
Compare this to the I-10 bridge in BR
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Total length
4,550 feet (1,387 m) (superstructure)
14,150 feet (4,313 m) (overall)
Now the price is cheap; however, it's not as big of a deal as the pics make it look.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:45 am to GEAUXT
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If they raise the gas tax I will beat JBE to death with a giant bag of dicks
well grab your bag and dicks, cause its gonna happen to the tune of about .25/gallon.
hosed
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But there is already a widespread assumption that, aside from other components of a transportation package, boosting the state's long stagnant gas tax is almost sure to top the list.
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Though the task force won't make its recommendations final until Dec. 13, members have made clear they'll call for as much as a 23-cent per gallon increase in the tax
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:46 am to LSUTigersVCURams
100 million was probably spend for studies to tell us that three lanes merging in to one at the base of the MS River Bridge getting onto I-10E causes traffic back ups
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:47 am to The Sad Banana
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Raising the gas tax for the sole purpose of funding transportation projects in the entire state is a necessary evil and the State knows it will have a hard sell to it's inhabitants.
But hear this...the revenue from the hike will be immediate, thus leading to projects being designed this year. We're talking $700MM in tax revenue solely for transportation infrastructure projects--roads, bridges, ports, rail.
To put in numbers terms, if the hike is 20 cents/gal and the average driver in Louisiana buys 700 gallons (15,000 miles/year with a Ford F-150 getting 22 MPG average) of gasoline in a single year, that's $140 a year more in taxes for that person. Let's say that's a round $200/year, or $16.67/month.
People will say, "Oh, that's probably less than what you spend at Starbucks in a month...a week even!" And that's not to say stop buying Starbucks, but it should put into perspective that if you can spend money on coffee you can certainly pony up less than $20/month for transportation projects in your state.
We are in dire need of change in this state. And believe it or not, if you want to get your arse out of traffic everyday and keep insurance rates on your vehicles from climbing and maintain the shocks and tires on your cars and trucks, you are going to have to pay as a society to improve the state's infrastructure.
All of this sounds great, except for that pesky thing called reality. You honestly believe that with this new tax all of a sudden the money will be spent wisely and things will get done in a timely manner?
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:54 am to The Sad Banana
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But hear this...the revenue from the hike will be immediate, thus leading to projects being designed this year. We're talking $700MM in tax revenue solely for transportation infrastructure projects--roads, bridges, ports, rail.
I appreciate what you are trying to sell me, but (and I mean this in the nicest way)...GFYS!. .
The gas tax of 1984, the TIMED project of 1990, the lottery, casinos, the Stelly Plan...none of these programs ever panned out to be as promised. Money I pay in taxes for hunting/fishing, sales taxes (10% in WBR), millage increases, etc. are used for other purposes. I'm getting fricked either way and regardless. So NO, I am not going to support or sit idly by as more of my money is confiscated and used for illicit purposes.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:55 am to GEAUXT
quote:Of course, reality is always the great equalizer. However, this gasoline spending tax is absolutely, 100% dedicated to transportation infrastructure spending.
All of this sounds great, except for that pesky thing called reality. You honestly believe that with this new tax all of a sudden the money will be spent wisely and things will get done in a timely manner?
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