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re: East coast container strike tomorrow, time to stock toilet paper?
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:40 pm to greenbean
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:40 pm to greenbean
Biden is in a bind on this one. He gets a ton of donations from the UMX lobby and port owners but he also can't go Taft-Hartly and force a NRLB negotiation because the unions would not be pleased.
If he forced a port favorable contract or if the rank and file of the ILA decided that they were co-opted at the negotiating table because of the election, then either side would cause serious headaches during the run-up for the election. Best case scenario would have been this being resolved weeks ago, now he can only just sit on a sideline and let nature take its coruse
If he forced a port favorable contract or if the rank and file of the ILA decided that they were co-opted at the negotiating table because of the election, then either side would cause serious headaches during the run-up for the election. Best case scenario would have been this being resolved weeks ago, now he can only just sit on a sideline and let nature take its coruse
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:41 pm to Trevaylin
Can't be running out of that paper to smear all that doo doo across your arse cheeks.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:41 pm to Trevaylin
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East coast container strike tomorrow, time to stock toilet paper?
Of course it happens right at the start of arse eatin season.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:42 pm to Trevaylin
I'm ok. I use the three shells.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:44 pm to Trevaylin
Biden can say he supports the union all he wants but if supplies to damaged areas get delayed due to this strike then that will be a media shite storm
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:51 pm to No Colors
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Name something you get from your supermarket that's brought in via containers.... I can think of: Bananas.
Yeah, it’s a lot more than bananas my friend. Just about every good you consume will be impacted.
I work in the maritime shipping industry. We’ve been bracing for weeks. It’s not just bananas.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:54 pm to Trevaylin
I was wondering why the local Costco had toilet paper pallets out the arse. My first thought was “ahh shite are they planning Covid24?”
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:56 pm to Trevaylin
Pretty insane the democrats didn’t do anything to try and postpone this until after the election
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:58 pm to BHTiger
How much does stuff from Asia goes into Gulf or East Coast ports?
I know alot of vehicles come into the east coast - see JAX.
Seems to me European and South American imports (and our exports to them) would be hardest hit.
I know alot of vehicles come into the east coast - see JAX.
Seems to me European and South American imports (and our exports to them) would be hardest hit.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:58 pm to Trevaylin
If you don't already have a good supply on hand, it is not a bad idea.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:05 pm to LRB1967
interesting........The management team leading the negotiating really represent the shippers that are 100% not American companies. Looks like foreign dominance of a key service. Who allowed this?
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:11 pm to Trevaylin
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The management team leading the negotiating really represent the shippers that are 100% not American companies. Looks like foreign dominance of a key service. Who allowed this?
What are you trying to ask here?
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:19 pm to ibldprplgld
union members 100% American, striking shipping companies that are 100 % non American.
No politician will want to get involved in that stink.
No politician will want to get involved in that stink.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:26 pm to Trevaylin
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union members 100% American, striking shipping companies that are 100 % non American.
So this strike has nothing to do with the steamship lines (Maersk, Hapag, CMA CGM, MSC, etc.)
It’s between the longshoreman and the ports.
Well technically Maersk has something to do with it since APM is a subsidiary of the Maersk group that operates some terminals (Mobile, Miami, and NY).
Steamship lines want to see the strike averted since they don’t make money if they aren’t moving boxes, but they aren’t a player in the strike.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:31 pm to ibldprplgld
Send a few pickups over to Home Depot and grab some hombres. They’ll be done with those ships before noon
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:38 pm to TigersnJeeps
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How much does stuff from Asia goes into Gulf or East Coast ports?
More than you would think: about 1/3 of Asian imports discharge at EC ports. It depends on the commodity and trade lane, but Asians are very stingy when shipping. Ocean freight is much more economical than rail or truck moves.
This will be a much higher impact on central and South America and Europe goods.
Think fresh fruit, coffee, booze, sea food, cars, car parts.
Plus many of your major chains (Walmart/Sams, Costco, Home Depot, IKEA, Best Buy, Target, etc.) all ship their goods into most major ports. It’s not as simple as redirecting a ship from say Savannah to Long Beach.
The WC terminals don’t have the capacity to handle that increased throughput.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 11:10 am to evil cockroach
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nope. Union strikes . 2 minutes later, President Biden orders them back to work due to national security. Negotiations continue
Makes headlines with Kamala mentioned with anything positive.
But the worst effects on consumers would not be felt after election and Biden-Harris might not want to affect Pennsylvania, Virginia, and even Maryland union voting if polling has them as tight or toss ups by breaking a strike and losing union support in those states.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 11:22 am to evil cockroach
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nope. Union strikes . 2 minutes later, President Biden orders them back to work due to national security. Negotiations continue
Incorrect..
To do this requires the implementation of the Taft-Hartley Act, which generally takes a week or so of leg work to get the process started, which the Biden administration hasn't done. Once Taft-Hartley Ac is enacted then there is a specific timeline.
1. Workers go back to work during an 80-day cooling-off period while negotiations are supposed to continue.
2. Assuming there’s no agreement, within 60-75 days, the USMX would submit its best and final offer to the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB), which would vote on it.
3. If the NLRB finds the offer acceptable, results are sent to the attorney general. If not, the president would recommend that Congress take action.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 11:58 am to No Colors
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I can think of: Bananas.
You can't really store these very long either....
Posted on 9/30/24 at 12:18 pm to Trevaylin
I've always brought home a couple rolls/week from the office 
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