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re: Drone combat is terrifying

Posted on 7/19/24 at 10:06 am to
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
21984 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 10:06 am to
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Drone combat is terrifying


Only if you are on the receiving end.
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Where I Am
Member since Nov 2011
3403 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 10:11 am to
Okay. When they they start coming after us in our homes and communities I will just tote around my 12 gauge and boxes of 6 shot. I knew mine and my sons competitive sporting clays hobby would amount to something one day. So everybody go get a 12 gauge semi automatic and go practice at your closest skeet/trap range or sporting clays facilities. Get proficient within 25 yards with a skeet choke and you will be good.
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
6048 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 10:17 am to
quote:

Only if you are on the receiving end.


Ha, true. It's probably a blast for the pilots.
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
14728 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 10:18 am to
I shouldn't have eaten before watching that.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
35697 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 10:22 am to
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How well are these drones guarded from theft?


Hell, the Obama administration is probably selling them to terrorist groups.






*Yes, I meant "Obama administration"
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133331 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 10:25 am to
These drones, not if but when they get into terrorists hands...I don't ever want to think about it.

Open air events will become very dangerous.

Are there drone defense systems?
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14348 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 10:28 am to
Maybe Ukraine is just the live action testing ground for this new form of warfare. Nothing else much seems to be getting accomplished there.

And frick that noise. Thankfully I'm too old at this point for our politicians to be interested in sacrificing me for their global power bloodlust and money laundering scams.
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
6048 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 10:43 am to
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And frick that noise. Thankfully I'm too old at this point for our politicians to be interested in sacrificing me for their global power bloodlust and money laundering scams.


Yep, just a reminder that next time some idiot starts cheering for war with Iran / China / Russia and sending troops overseas, this is the kind of shite our soldiers are going to be facing.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
23156 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 10:43 am to
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This bloodshed could stop if we would stop funding it.


I'm sure Putin would make a magnanimous dictator over Ukraine.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133331 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 10:44 am to
Seems like a 12 gauge shotgun with bird shot could take these drones out 40 or so yards away before they hit their intended target.

Along with rifles, these soldiers might have to start carrying shotguns to nock these drones out of the sky. At least have a drone protection team with each group.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
3214 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 10:52 am to
I was just thinking maybe I need to add some #4 shot to my doomsday pile. Hell I bet #6 would take a small drone out.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
23156 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 10:52 am to
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Who makes these drones?


Ukrainians are building a very large number themselves. They are cheap and horribly effective often costing <$500.

Our Switchblade suicide drones cost $60k or more each.

The front is over 800 miles of territory.

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
23156 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:00 am to
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Eh, I'm torn on this. While it is insane to think it's probably a bunch of 20 year olds blowing people up like it's Call of Duty in a nice enclosed trailer, on the other hand the Russians are invading another country and once you try that, anything goes.

If a foreign country tried to invade America and they asked for volunteers to blow up invaders from my couch, I'd do it 20 hour a days.


There is a long ugly history of bad blood between Russia and Ukraine with Ukraine having suffered genocidal attacks from Stalin within living memory. That won't be forgotten or forgiven ever.

The drone operators are not so far away from their actions since the RC has limited range. Drone operators on both sides hunt each other as prime targets from what I've seen.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104328 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:00 am to
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Odysseus32
You have a choice in war when your homeland is invaded

Watch your own family die and die yourself while feeling good about your morals

Or

Kill the people invading you and feel crummy about yourself


Your choice mate
Posted by Lsutigerturner
Member since Dec 2016
6816 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:14 am to
Yeah the most fricked yo one I have seen was a Russian soldier playing hide and seek from a drone hiding under jumping on top and running around a blown up tank dodging the thing, was a little to slow jumping under the tank and thing self detonated about 3-5’ above his legs and lower body.


What a way to go, no way to fight back unless I would think some kind of radio wave jammer or a damn old school semi auto shotgun to try and shoot em out of the air
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28565 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:19 am to
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Who makes these drones?


A lot of the ones being using in Ukraine are made by DJI. There was no reason to reinvent the wheel.
Posted by reggierayreb
Member since Nov 2012
18104 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:19 am to
I think I'd be more immune to watching something like this in my early 20s but now that I have a son myself and friends that have served and been wounded/killed overseas these videos affect you differently. That's someone's son/grandson/baby brother rolling around in the mud and cold in excruciating pain. God forbid if there was clear sound and you'd have to hear those poor guys calling out for their mothers and comrades. I don't think I'd be able stomach the entire video at that point.
This post was edited on 7/19/24 at 11:24 am
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
23156 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:23 am to
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Okay. When they they start coming after us in our homes and communities I will just tote around my 12 gauge and boxes of 6 shot. I knew mine and my sons competitive sporting clays hobby would amount to something one day.


That was part of the training for gunners on WWII bombers.
Posted by Metariemobtiger
Mobile
Member since Aug 2019
537 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:30 am to
A friend of mines gf was a drone operator with jsoc.
I’ve heard some pretty wild stories of how capable they are. Literally anyone ,anytime..
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39921 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:33 am to
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Pretty sure if this footage got more play no one would ever go to war again.


You used to have to kill a man with your hands, and people still had war. Now war is so impersonal that you can conduct it behind a computer screen.

You think more dehumanizing and greater distances between the attacker and the dead is going to lead to less war?
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