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re: Driver in Madison Brooks case waives jury trial

Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:33 pm to
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
60562 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:33 pm to
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This trial is going to be absolutely brutal



As it should be…there is enough blame to go around to everyone involved.
Posted by pizota13
Addis, La
Member since Feb 2013
226 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 6:23 pm to
I hope they all get the maximum sentence. What these scumbags did is inexcusable . A bunch of young punks had their way with a young intoxicated girl..makes me sick.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
7306 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 10:28 pm to
When you waive a jury trial, the judge has indicated in chambers a not guilty verdict or a light sentence. Otherwise you would be an idiot to waive a jury trial.
Posted by PaBon
UPT 17th W/D
Member since Sep 2014
2231 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 10:31 pm to
What a circus. Feel for this family.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
9271 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 10:39 pm to
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When you waive a jury trial, the judge has indicated in chambers a not guilty verdict or a light sentence. Otherwise you would be an idiot to waive a jury trial.


This isn’t true at all. There are all kinds of reasons to waive jury trials. You see it a lot with overly technical cases.

From what the guys attorney has said it looks like the defense doesn’t want a jury trial because they think the prosecutions case against him (the driver) is weak and they don’t want an emotional jury that just wants to make sure someone gets punished.

Posted by hometownhero89
Center of the Earth
Member since Aug 2007
2047 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 10:42 pm to
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Smart move by his lawyer. The judge’s son is serial rapist and she got in trouble last year for letting a rapist free.


This is why the true thing that AI needs to replace is the lawyers and judges.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13813 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 11:09 pm to
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When you waive a jury trial, the judge has indicated in chambers a not guilty verdict or a light sentence. Otherwise you would be an idiot to waive a jury trial.


Not really, Baton Rouge judges don’t know the law and make up shite as they go. Also they are very pro criminal.
This post was edited on 9/25/25 at 11:09 pm
Posted by redstickrick
Laffy, La
Member since May 2019
428 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 11:27 pm to
Posted by sleepytime
Member since Feb 2014
3856 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 11:43 pm to
Question for the jurist of the OT: What are the reasons you would want to waive a jury trial and what are the reasons you would want to go with a jury trial?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35095 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 11:51 pm to
Waive: “Defense friendly” judge; if the matter seems to hinge upon a technical point of law, as opposed to a battle of attorneys framing the facts one way or the other.

Not waive: the trial is taking place in a non-conservative jurisdiction where the chances of landing a “defense friendly” jury is a strong possibility or likelihood.

There are many other nuanced reasons for one or the other as well. The above is a broad explanation based on my experience and opinion and observations.
Posted by redstickrick
Laffy, La
Member since May 2019
428 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 11:56 pm to
Truly it can be boiled down pretty simply.

Pro for jury trials: you only have to convince one person out of 12.

So from there, you need to have a really good reason why it’s easier to convince one judge than to convince 1/12 barely literate EBR registered voters.

Potential reasons are:
-Publicity
-Emotion
-Complex legal issues
-Bad client, bad appearance, demeanor, unlikable
-You’re a black guy with face tats in a suburban parish
-you’re a white guy accused of a racially involved crime in an urban parish


So you have to have a good reason why. For Carver it’s simple. He was alleged to have been sitting in a car and/or driving during a rape in the back seat. I don’t do criminal law enough to know if that’s a crime but it definitely sounds like a terrible thing to do. So I get why he wants a purely legal view, because no matter what, it’s a terrible thing to do morally.
This post was edited on 9/25/25 at 11:58 pm
Posted by RanchoLaPuerto
Jena
Member since Aug 2023
1810 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:46 am to
Can’t the prosecution seek a jury?
Posted by Tear It Up
The Deadening
Member since May 2005
13896 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 5:46 am to
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According to court documents, the victim told East Baton Rouge Parish Sheriff’s deputies that she was cleaning a room when Taylor approached her. Initially thinking he was looking for towels, she left her cleaning cart, only to return and find him masturbating


This strategy only works in the Dirty Latina Maids videos.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44889 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 6:00 am to
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who was charged with 2 counts of forcible rape of his preteen neighbor


So, a child. He raped a child.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
22009 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 7:11 am to
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they don’t want an emotional jury that just wants to make sure someone gets punished.

And the demographics of EBR
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
22009 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 7:13 am to
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Not waive: the trial is taking place in a non-conservative jurisdiction where the chances of landing a “defense friendly” jury is a strong possibility or likelihood.

He’s white in EBR, he won’t get this benefit when his co-defendants are black and did the physical raping. They’ll want him to go down
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
23842 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 7:14 am to
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Yep. There are likely going to be a lot of unflattering things come out about the deceased. I couldn't imagine, as a parent, having to listen to that about my dead child. From a defense strategy standpoint it probably makes sense to try it to the judge. The alleged facts are ugly. Attractive young female allegedly raped and left alone where she was ultimately killed. All trials such as these are emotional. But it's easier to play on the emotion of 12 members of the community vs a judge who has to hear about bad things every day.


Haven’t they ruled that her sexual history isn’t relevant?

At the end of the day whether she “wanted it” or not. She was an intoxicated female who cannot consent and they left her basically to die on the road.

These boys are fricked.
This post was edited on 9/26/25 at 7:15 am
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
23842 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 7:15 am to
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As it should be…there is enough blame to go around to everyone involved.


Not sure how the victim can have any blame in this situation. Yikes what a statement.
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
5804 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 8:49 am to
Gail Horne Ray will surely be taken off this case.

She’s already ruled that some evidence can be used in the trial only for an appellate court to rule that it can’t. So she’s already seen evidence that can’t be used but will surely influence her judgement.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46616 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 8:50 am to
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So she’s already seen evidence that can’t be used but will surely influence her judgement.
that is precisely why the DAs office is attempting to have her removed from the case
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