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re: Drive Safe & Save Programs

Posted on 4/27/26 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36995 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 2:58 pm to
It’s funny how many people use it and realize they drive like assholes so they get rid of it.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20059 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 3:01 pm to
They'd definitely charge me more after monitoring me
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22020 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 3:04 pm to
i hate it but it does save me about $100/mo in auto insurance.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22020 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 3:05 pm to
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The Minimum discount State Farm will give is 1% if you are a bad driver. They will not raise your rates on Drive Safe and Save.


Mostly true. There is only one exception to this. If you were on a restricted mileage insurance plan before (usually less than 7,500mi/yr) and it turns out you are driving more miles than that, they will raise your rate to a regular plan.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36995 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 3:24 pm to
My rate just constantly drops. I believe it was around $150/mo when we started, and few years later it’s below $110.

I’m not sure why people are scared of their location being tracked. You drive around with a device in your pocket that is also constantly tracking your location.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
18029 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

We did it for a few months and our insurance dropped like $60 a month


Ours has dropped a little, but my wife drives like a bat out of hell. Thanks goodness my son and I drive like pawpaws.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
35943 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 3:48 pm to
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Any engine with a turbo or one that accelerates quickly is going to get you dinged on the acceleration category until your discount reaches zero and there's nothing they can do to fix it.



Or if you have a manual
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22020 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 4:02 pm to
I just hate burning up my phone battery from it. It is a drain.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50503 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 4:51 pm to
These sound great until you accidentally bump into a motorcyclist at the red light. The guy falls off, gets injured, then his lawyer finds out through your drive safe and save program that your phone was open at the time of the accident, and not only was it open, but it detected a hard brake.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89472 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 4:55 pm to
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I’ve heard they’re terrible. Who would want to be constantly monitored by their insurance company?


I use it with Geico and it saves me money. I don't know how anyone can live in Louisiana and not want thier insurance rates lower.


You essentially get good scores as long as you don't pick up your phone while driving.



Honestly, if you are on your phone and driving you should get arrested like with DUI.





Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89472 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

These sound great until you accidentally bump into a motorcyclist at the red light.


I would want to know you bumped into because you were looking at your phone.



Posted by BrianKellysbuyout
Member since Nov 2025
1502 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 4:57 pm to
You'll end up getting a 6% discount, but State Farm is going to make so much more money off of you by selling your data. It's up to you.
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
We Coming
Member since Oct 2009
10969 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 5:18 pm to
quote:

The app connects via Bluetooth to a beacon in your vehicle to record trips, requiring location services to be set to "always allow".


Nah bruh. I'm good.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
150108 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 5:51 pm to
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I was told that it couldn't be used to raise my rate but I don't believe that one bit.
you’d have to be a completely smooth brain to believe an insurance company won’t use negative data against you

The absolute state of idiots in this thread trusting insurance companies
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
15773 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 6:18 pm to
quote:

I’m not doing anything illegal so why would I care?

Congrats on putting zero effort into finding out what data is actually collected.

Someone pulls out in front of you, you brake, but your collision detection warning goes off? Strike. Rapid acceleration to use a short on ramp to an interstate? Strike. Dog darts out into the road causing you to brake hard? Strike. Asian driver stops at a yield sign, you brake too hard, Strike.

And yet last week we had the thread about driver eye monitoring in cars being mandatory in 2027, and people had their pitchforks out.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26743 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 6:37 pm to
The only major carrier that I know who could/would raise your rate is Progressive (I dont know geico).

For everyone else, it is a discount program. The minimum discount for a 3 month score is typically 5%.
The maximum discount is typically 30-40%.

Outside of the discount earned, insurance companies do not use the information on your policy. If you tell the insurance company that you do not drive for work but have the same trip 5 days a week, it doesn't change anything on your policy.

There is no big brother, here.

The data is used to try and develop new insurance products. Nationwide has a pay by the mile policy (with permanent scoring). Other companies are trying to design and implement similar insurance products.
These products are optional.
They are trying to attract people who rarely drive and drive safely (shocker).

The scoring algorithm doesn't care how fast you drive.
It cares how hard you accelerate. How hard you brake.
How many miles you drive.
Driving after midnight.
And many will ding you if you use your phone while driving.

People who do a lot of highway driving typically score better.

If you dont want to do a driver score on principle, dont do it.

If you have a video game mentality, you will learn "danger spots" in your weekly commute that make it difficult to avoid hard accelerations or hard brakes. It can make you a more aware driver of your regular trips.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16567 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 7:43 pm to
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I’ve heard they’re terrible. Who would want to be constantly monitored by their insurance company?

Why should I take issue with it.

USAA’s is simply a “don’t use your phone and no harsh braking” app. It usually saves me about 15-20% because harsh braking seems inevitable, and sometimes I answer the phone when people call.

I have no issue with this. Why should I?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26743 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 7:48 pm to
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I have no issue with this. Why should I?


The truth is that the people who do not do the drivers score are paying for the ones who do the score.

Insurance is a collective pool of funds.
If I earn a 20% discount but my insurance company needs more premium because they are giving away too many discounts, then they are filing a state-wide rate increase.

Those who dont complete the discount score not only fail to take advantage of free savings, but they also bear the brunt of insurance companies handing out too many free discounts.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50503 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:08 pm to
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I would want to know you bumped into because you were looking at your phone.

Oh no I agree, my point is that there all sorts of ways the discount results in you being spied on that can be used against you later. I stay away from these things.
Posted by Oakbeach
Member since Nov 2024
33 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:11 pm to
I’m saving $262.00 for the next 6 months.
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