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re: Dream home plans squashed when architect turns out to not be one

Posted on 9/21/24 at 8:20 am to
Posted by BeachDude022
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 8:20 am to
Well you’re building a “dream home” in Baker. There’s your first real problem
Posted by shadowlsu
BR
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 8:20 am to
This fraud has been in business too long to not know the 4,000 sf rule. How did it get all the way to the permit office before he was caught. He should have made the owner aware at the first meeting. fricking con man. And I know a lot of architects and engineers, but I don't know one who would take liability for a dog house for $500, much less a house that size.
Posted by Sterling Archer
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 8:24 am to
How much money is the guy really out of? $3k? Cut your losses
Posted by dyslexiateechur
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 8:27 am to
It was a price too good to be true so I’m thinking hundreds. How much does an architect usually charge?
Posted by Ingeniero
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 8:29 am to
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Sure he can. There’s nothing illegal about calling oneself an architectural designer.


If architecture is anything like engineering, it sure is. LAPELS will be up your arse if you're selling "engineering services" without a license
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 8:30 am to
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Sure he can. There’s nothing illegal about calling oneself an architectural designer.


Nope. Just like I can’t call myself a “ plumbing designer” when I have no plumbing credentials.

It comes under licensure for professions.

Posted by shadowlsu
BR
Member since May 2011
325 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 8:31 am to
Years ago the going rate was like $1/sf, it's probably higher now. Architects charge around 7% of construction cost for commercial projects. Don't know if it's less for residential.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 8:34 am to
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Why is this such a big deal? Are they having trouble finding an architect to review the plans, make changes if necessary then seal them?


It shouldn't be a problem.

This guy could fix this by getting a down on his luck architect to work with him on the cheap.
Posted by SmoothBox
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 8:35 am to
Building a 7000sf home and they’re griping over $500. This place will be repossessed 18 months after construction is complete.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 8:46 am to
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Sure he can. There’s nothing illegal about calling oneself an architectural designer.


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§145. Architects; requirements for; certificate; continuing education A. No person shall practice architecture in this state or use the title "architect", or any term derived therefrom, or display or use any title, sign, advertisement, or other device to indicate that such person practices or offers to practice architecture, or renders architectural services, or is an architect, unless such person shall have secured from the board a certificate of registration and license in the manner hereinafter provided, and shall thereafter comply with the provisions of the laws of the state of Louisiana governing the registration and licensing of architects.
LINK


Some states don’t have that verbiage, but Louisiana does.
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 8:52 am to
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Some states don’t have that verbiage, but Louisiana does.


Thanks for posting that. Louisiana has a lot of verbiage on all of the professional occupations.
Posted by Roberteaux
mandeville
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:00 am to
It was my understanding that you can’t use any form or variation of the word “architect” if you are not licensed, so “architectural designer” wouldn’t fly. I can see why it might be misleading, but the designer’s contract seemed pretty straightforward. Why didn’t the client just pay the $500 for the structural and move forward? If you can’t afford that, then you can’t afford the house
Posted by MMauler
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:11 am to



This post was edited on 9/21/24 at 9:13 am
Posted by kciDAtaE
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:20 am to
Their dream home is in Baker. That’s the funniest part of the entire story.
Posted by MMauler
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:22 am to
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"I'm not pretending to be an architect, if you are an architectural designer you do the work, you get it approved by a licensed architect or an engineer," said Bell.



Translation: He bought a cheap computer program off of Amazon to make cute little pictures so that people think he’s an actual architect. He then charges an obscene amount of money to unwitting dupes who actually think they’re paying an architect. as long as the project stays under 4000 ft.², no one knows the difference.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:25 am to
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"I'm not pretending to be an architect"


quote:

The Louisiana State Board of Architectural Examiners has investigated Bell before and found that he had used someone's architect's seal without their permission.


Okay, bud.
Posted by Mr Breeze
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:28 am to
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If architecture is anything like engineering, it sure is. LAPELS will be up your arse if you're selling "engineering services" without a license

True. And, some civil PE/PLS firms if they hear about it, will turn your arse in.

As they should.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:29 am to
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4000 ft.²


How did you get that superscript to appear in your message? I really need that. I'd rather not post ft^2 and use your superscript.
Posted by MMauler
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:32 am to
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How did you get that superscript to appear in your message?


Not a fricking clue. I almost always use the voice recognition function on SwiftKey to make my posts. That’s just how it came out when I said, “4000 square feet."
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:36 am to
A lesson in don’t always go with the cheapest quote.

Find a real architect to work the plans into something doable and sue the other guy for your additional costs.
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