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re: Does your church practice church discipline?
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:15 am to StrongOffer
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:15 am to StrongOffer
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I agree but there is a huge difference between committing a homosexual act and leading a life of homosexuality. The ladder should not be tolerated at church.
what is the difference between leading a life of homosexuality and say, leading a life of greed, gluttony, pride, etc., which we all know many church-goers absolutely do?
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:15 am to Gee Grenouille
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Sounds like he’s committed to living in this sin via marriage. What does the bible say about that?
What does the bible say about man being the judge?
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:16 am to AwesomeSauce
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No different than drunkenness
since when is this a sin?
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:16 am to Funky Tide 8
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what is the difference between leading a life of homosexuality and say, leading a life of greed, gluttony, pride, etc., which we all know many church-goers absolutely do?
sodomy.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:18 am to BrodyDad
If one is suspected of sin at my church they are forced to dance with the snake.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:18 am to Shexter
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I thought they supported the gays
I guess it depends on which denomination of the non-denominational
I think it does. Since each pastor is an island unto himself to determine what scripture really means, they can each make it be whatever they feel “called” that Jesus was teaching. A lot lean heavily on the “judge nots” so they can fill the auditorium and the donations.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:19 am to hubertcumberdale
quote:Quite literally spelled out in the same breath as homosexuality being a sin.
since when is this a sin?
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:20 am to Funky Tide 8
quote:These others CAN be subjective. Getting a document stating you are living with and actively sleeping with a person of the same sex is pretty concrete and a statement that you are willfully going against the Church's teachings. If you know someone owns a business that is stealing money from people, the same applies. Change your ways or you're not allowed to participate in communion.
what is the difference between leading a life of homosexuality and say, leading a life of greed, gluttony, pride, etc., which we all know many church-goers absolutely do?
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:20 am to BrodyDad
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but my brother feels like they have no choice but to tell him to leave.
If they do then it's a clear sign that they are a church centered around themselves and not God.
Jesus welcomed all but he did not condone their sins. His message was to repent for the kingdom of God is at hand.
Repent as in turn away from and sin no more.
I'm pretty sure that's the message, but I'll look through the bible to try to find the time Jesus told the sinner to go away from him until he was clean and then return to hear his message.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:21 am to hubertcumberdale
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since when is this a sin?
It’s always been a sin. When you are not operating the temple at 100% that is a slight to God brother.
As is being a glutton or loose women.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:22 am to Salmon
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if you believe a person is living in sin, and your goal is to save that person from that sin (I assume), shunning them seems like the worst way to accomplish that goal
It's also about the church body. You let a sin fly here, a sin fly there... it doesn't feel much like church anymore.
Also, some churches like to actually follow church order as laid out in the New Testament.
My last church had a couple of discipline issues- both concerning unrepentant adultery. The people in unrepentant sin were eventually purged.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:23 am to Gee Grenouille
I Corinthians 5 -
9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people; 10 I did not at all mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the greedy and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to leave the world. 11 But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is a sexually immoral person, or a greedy person, or an idolater, or is verbally abusive, or habitually drunk, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a person. 12 For what business of mine is it to judge outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? 13 But those who are outside, God judges. Remove the evil person from among yourselves.
9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people; 10 I did not at all mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the greedy and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to leave the world. 11 But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is a sexually immoral person, or a greedy person, or an idolater, or is verbally abusive, or habitually drunk, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a person. 12 For what business of mine is it to judge outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? 13 But those who are outside, God judges. Remove the evil person from among yourselves.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:23 am to AwesomeSauce
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I personally feel a true biblical church will continue to welcome, but not allow a leadership or forward facing role as long as the person is struggling.
If a person is living in unrepentant sin. I would include church membership on that list.
He should be welcome to attend, however.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:25 am to SallysHuman
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The people in unrepentant sin were eventually purged.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:25 am to BrodyDad
We have two in our conservative church. We simply told them they could not be in any teaching, leadership position, or help with the children. The original member was hurt at first, but she has returned and seems happy.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:26 am to Deep Purple Haze
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The people in unrepentant sin were eventually purged.
and then boiled and later dusted with seasoning
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:27 am to jizzle6609
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It’s always been a sin. When you are not operating the temple at 100% that is a slight to God brother.
the blood of Christ is literally wine and served at church to adults and minors. Jesus literally turned water into wine. what am i missing here?
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:28 am to AwesomeSauce
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A sin is a sin. No different than adultery. No different than drunkenness. No different than a pornography addiction. There are a lot of sinners that walk through a church door and need forgiveness and that are still working on their walk and leaving the world and the weight of their particular sin. I have seen churches treat each of these situations, some quiet, others with candidness. I personally feel a true biblical church will continue to welcome, but not allow a leadership or forward facing role as long as the person is struggling.
You are right in that the church should welcome repentant sinners, otherwise they would have no congregation. The problem is this guy is about to marry a man. He is not repentant. 1 Corinthians spells this out pretty clearly, so the question is does your church act according to the Bible or according to the world?
1 Corinthians 5
11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister[a] but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.
12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”[b]
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:28 am to jizzle6609
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It’s always been a sin.
I love when non-religious people just make shite up
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:28 am to Master of Sinanju
quote:I don't disagree with that at all. I have attended several denominations through my personal walk and know that not every church has members. Especially non-denominational churches I have attended have completely gone away from having formal church membership.
If a person is living in unrepentant sin. I would include church membership on that list.
He should be welcome to attend, however.
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