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re: Does anybody know someone who was wronged by the justice system? #metoo mvmnt
Posted on 3/24/21 at 8:52 pm to TexasTiger08
Posted on 3/24/21 at 8:52 pm to TexasTiger08
My Country got robbed during an election and the justice system ignored me.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 9:01 pm to DaleGribble
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I paid more than double what I should have (based on income) through Georgia's child support court for 18 years. Four different attorneys, never went before a judge, and never got a single review. You're supposed to be eligible for a review every 2 years.
Holy crap that sucks arse.
Family Court wrongs may not be jail time or career-ending but they SUCK BAD.
This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 3/24/21 at 9:06 pm to Cossatotjoe
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The worst is guys who turn down those deals because of family pressure. Family won’t do the time for you but they will sure talk you into a stupid fight.
The summer between my 2L and 3L year, I clerked for a private defense attorney in Myrtle Beach. He represented a guy who was accused of burglary and robbing a drug dealer near Coastal Carolina University. One of his co-defendants was a childhood friend who was a football player at Coastal. My boss's client took a plea of strong arm robbery and got 10 years, but because strong arm robbery isn't classified as a violent crime in SC, he could have been out in less than 3 years. He took the plea.
His co-defendant's family hired a really good lawyer and basically were in the kid's ear the whole process telling him he could beat the case. They convinced him to turn down the same plea. Kid got convicted of burglary and armed robbery and was sentenced to 18 years in prison. And because both of these crimes are deemed violent crimes in SC, he had to do 85% of the full sentence, which was 15 years. So family pressure cost this kid 12 years of his life.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 9:07 pm to TexasTiger08
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Unfortunately, this just gives me more reason to hate our society and these extremely liberal movements.
You’ve got your narratives all mixed up.
A lot can be blamed on liberals, but blaming your friend’s situation on them makes no sense. If anything, liberal policies and agendas would look kindly on him.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 9:22 pm to TexasTiger08
quote:wait...... the political talk board tells us a couple times a week how liberals are pedos and Soros’s DAs champion rights of sexual deviants
His attorney also said that taking it to trial in a liberal city (Austin) wasn’t advisable.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 9:31 pm to SuperSaint
Lots of guys in prison for long long sentences on nothing more than the word of a child without even any physical evidence. Those trials are tough. As a defense attorney you are really limited on what you bring out and put before a jury and a jury is often looking to make someone pay.
This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 3/24/21 at 9:36 pm to slackster
It’s interesting to read this thread, and then go back and read the Orgeron State pitcher thread
VASTLY DIFFERENT vibe
VASTLY DIFFERENT vibe
Posted on 3/24/21 at 9:42 pm to lsupride87
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It’s interesting to read this thread, and then go back and read the Orgeron State pitcher thread
VASTLY DIFFERENT vibe
I don’t believe the OP’s friend either, fwiw.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 9:42 pm to TDsngumbo
quote:I was ticketed for a rolling stop in the Mockingbird Ln./Harry Hines Blvd interchange one afternoon. Sat in a line of traffic there, just like every day, and saw DPD stopping other cars that actually didn't stop, so I made sure I stopped.
I was given a speeding ticket for going 67mph in a 55mph zone in St. Gabriel on my way to class one morning 15 years ago.
What I'm calling an interchange, is actually an exit lane that runs into a named street. No one going through it comes to a complete stop because there is hardly ever any traffic in the street. Hardly anyone stops in the process of getting from the exit lane to the street because they know there's no traffic. The city busses just treat it like a wide turn.
The cops just set up there that day and gave at least every other car a ticket. One cop was supposedly signalling other cops down the road when someone didn't stop. Three cops were standing in a business complex's four lane drive. One motioned for you to turn in, and the other two wrote tickets that only needed the driver's info. Most knew they were guilty. When I argued with the cop writing my ticket, he just said, "Tell the judge."
Posted on 3/24/21 at 9:45 pm to slackster
quote:Im talking about the attorney who deals with child rape cases specifically telling the thread how hard it is to beat these charges regardless of guilt, and everyone kinda agreeing with him on why taking a plea makes sense
I don’t believe the OP’s friend either, fwiw.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 9:51 pm to lsupride87
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Im talking about the attorney who deals with child rape cases specifically telling the thread how hard it is to beat these charges regardless of guilt, and everyone kinda agreeing with him on why taking a plea makes sense
A plea makes sense not necessarily because of how difficult a case it or isn’t. A plea makes sense when you consider the risk. If you get a deal for a few months in prison, like was posited in the OP, verses going to prison for the rest of your life if you are convicted, you’d better think long and hard about that even if the chance of conviction is ten percent. And of course, you can never quantify what your actual chances are on a case like that. You never know what might happen.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 9:57 pm to TexasTiger08
I was. Pissed me off so bad I went to law school and now I am a criminal defense attorney. Talk about ultimate retribution. Powerful stuff to a jury during closing arguments. Borderline jury nullification.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:00 pm to TexasTiger08
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It hurts to know this could happen.
It’s terrifying to think about that happening. Everything you’ve worked for your entire life, reputation, career, financials, family could be taken away by one persons word. One fricking person could destroy you.
Think about that USC running back who lost everything and spent five years in jail over a girl that got drunk, had sex, and regretted it. Absolutely terrifying.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:05 pm to supadave3
A good ethical DA with a sense of perspective is the greatest public servant on earth and a bulwark of freedom. There aren’t that many. You have a lot that are out and out career climbers who would cut your throat for a conviction, and you have some that are crusaders, and a lot that are afraid to piss off the cops.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:05 pm to TexasTiger08
I was almost wronged but I fought that shite with every dime I had and eventually came out on top. I was broke, but I was vindicated. You never get made whole, but wtf are you going to do?
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:09 pm to TexasTiger08
My cousin(distant) has been in prison for almost 20 years now over a drug deal he set. He never touched the drugs, just got one guy in tough with another. Forget ow he got busted, but they offered him immunity if he rolled on the other 2. He refused. I think the amount they were moving is what caused the sentence to be so lengthy. I
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:09 pm to TexasTiger08
I'm not sure the actual percentage but I'd guess 85-90% of cases are reached through plea deals and judge usually goes along with the agreement (has discretion to lessen or raise sentence)... Otherwise you go to trial and if found guilty the DA will go after higher end of sentence protocol plus....the worst of all...if someone in prison finds out/got ahold of a child molester...the results don't usually weigh in the Cho-Mo's favor...in otherwords... dude's scared shitless..if he serves 6 months, so be it..... chances are he does that time in County as opposed to a State Prison..which he'd be easier to watch and technically"safer"...
This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:10 pm to TidenUP
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That's how DA's get those conviction rates so high. Plea to a lesser sentence and they get to nail another pelt to the wall
Fact. DA’s hate going to trial. It’s time consuming, costly, and there is always the risk of losing the case. They will offer sweet deals all the way up to the date of the trial if there are any weaknesses in the case.
Also I’ve seen over the years courts hate putting people in prison. Inmates cost money. A person on probation pays the ankle monitor company, probation officers, fines, restitution, etc.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:15 pm to slackster
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I don’t believe the OP’s friend either, fwiw.
You don’t have to. Unfortunately, we live in a world where people are in a race to judgement, as seen most recently with the Boulder shooter.
I think if you knew this guy on a personal level, you might have a different opinion.
Regardless, all you have is a girl saying one thing and an adult denying it happened. Any sliver of evidence that would help him isn’t admissible, and this other family has high society reputation on their side. Factor in a jury watching a girl cry, and some locally involved mother and father, and it’s set up to win before it starts.
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