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Does anybody know someone who was wronged by the justice system? #metoo mvmnt
Posted on 3/24/21 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 3/24/21 at 7:46 pm
A former coworker (teacher) of mine was accused of inappropriately touching a child about 3 years ago. I know him pretty well, obviously moreso when he lived down here and worked at the school with me. He was active in their church, father of 4. Seemed to be a very big family man.
I tried to reserve judgement when this happened, because I know how the ‘me too’ movement works. When I worked with him, I never noticed him act out of the ordinary. He never made pervy comments or anything.
He moved away about 6 years ago, then this bombshell hit. I found out through the grapevine, and eventually got in contact with he and his wife. He immediately denied it. His wife was by his side. The student who made the claim had apparently recently moved to that school, and rumors are that she made a claim at her previous school. Daddy is an attorney, and her mom is a ‘women’s activist’. FWIW- social media shows the family at a party the night their daughter cried foul.
Fast forward to today. My acquaintance had been working construction for 3 years. I stayed in touch as a friend, and assumed this had all blown over. I asked him how he was doing, and he brought up this whole situation (which I obviously did not want to ask him about any time we talked). He said his attorney had set up a deal where he would take a plea agreement, would avoid serving time, and things would be manageable. This was apparently discussed with the other attorney (or DA?) and agreed upon...until today. The other attorney said they would be pursuing 6 months jail time, and he would have to register as a sex offender.
My first thought was, why take a plea if you’re claiming innocence? He said since he’s innocent, no evidence was ever found to support her claim. Because she’s a minor, her records are sealed regarding claims against other teachers or adults. That family’s social status works against him. His attorney also said that taking it to trial in a liberal city (Austin) wasn’t advisable. A crying activist-mother and child would not bode well for a middle aged white man, regardless of his clean record.
Apparently it would cost him several thousand in attorney fees just to go to trial, and if he lost he would face 2-20.
I can’t help but believe him and his wife. Zero physical evidence, but several outside factors working against him. It’s essentially ‘he said, she said’, where the she is a daughter that is seemingly brainwashed by a liberal, activist mother.
It hurts to know this could happen.
I tried to reserve judgement when this happened, because I know how the ‘me too’ movement works. When I worked with him, I never noticed him act out of the ordinary. He never made pervy comments or anything.
He moved away about 6 years ago, then this bombshell hit. I found out through the grapevine, and eventually got in contact with he and his wife. He immediately denied it. His wife was by his side. The student who made the claim had apparently recently moved to that school, and rumors are that she made a claim at her previous school. Daddy is an attorney, and her mom is a ‘women’s activist’. FWIW- social media shows the family at a party the night their daughter cried foul.
Fast forward to today. My acquaintance had been working construction for 3 years. I stayed in touch as a friend, and assumed this had all blown over. I asked him how he was doing, and he brought up this whole situation (which I obviously did not want to ask him about any time we talked). He said his attorney had set up a deal where he would take a plea agreement, would avoid serving time, and things would be manageable. This was apparently discussed with the other attorney (or DA?) and agreed upon...until today. The other attorney said they would be pursuing 6 months jail time, and he would have to register as a sex offender.
My first thought was, why take a plea if you’re claiming innocence? He said since he’s innocent, no evidence was ever found to support her claim. Because she’s a minor, her records are sealed regarding claims against other teachers or adults. That family’s social status works against him. His attorney also said that taking it to trial in a liberal city (Austin) wasn’t advisable. A crying activist-mother and child would not bode well for a middle aged white man, regardless of his clean record.
Apparently it would cost him several thousand in attorney fees just to go to trial, and if he lost he would face 2-20.
I can’t help but believe him and his wife. Zero physical evidence, but several outside factors working against him. It’s essentially ‘he said, she said’, where the she is a daughter that is seemingly brainwashed by a liberal, activist mother.
It hurts to know this could happen.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 7:48 pm to TexasTiger08
I was given a speeding ticket for going 67mph in a 55mph zone in St. Gabriel on my way to class one morning 15 years ago. I had my cruise set at 54mph but arguing with the cop got me nowhere and I ended up paying $160 for a bogus ticket. frick St. Gabriel.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 7:48 pm to TexasTiger08
OJ was either guilty or innocent.
He was found to be both.
shite happens.
He was found to be both.
shite happens.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 7:49 pm to TexasTiger08
Posted on 3/24/21 at 7:50 pm to TexasTiger08
Every man that caught his wife cheating on him and was STILL hammered in domestic court.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 7:53 pm to TexasTiger08
Had a friend who had a real bitch for a neighbor. She called the cops and said she saw him abusing their kids. Of course, the State shows up and removes the kids, his name gets blasted and his life spirals downward.
Of course it was later dropped but the damage was done. His life has never been the same.
Of course it was later dropped but the damage was done. His life has never been the same.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 7:54 pm to TexasTiger08
I’m an attorney, I know tons of people wronged by the justice system. That said, most of the ones who say they were wronged, weren’t. And many of them who were don’t realize how bad they were.
This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 3/24/21 at 7:55 pm to TexasTiger08
Child sex crimes are the least credible convictions imo. You see more fabricated stories in them than almost all other types of criminal cases combined. Juries will convict anyone if they're accused of these crimes, regardless of the evidence. And many times these cases arise out of nasty custody disputes or bad breakups. And when you get Child Protective Services involved, the case workers use manipulative and leading questions to obtain a specific outcome, which is a confession that the child was abused. Seeing these cases every day turned me from a weekend partier right out of law school into a full blown cocaine addict and alcoholic.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 7:57 pm to TDsngumbo
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I was given a speeding ticket for going 67mph in a 55mph zone in St. Gabriel on my way to class one morning 15 years ago. I had my cruise set at 54mph but arguing with the cop got me nowhere and I ended up paying $160 for a bogus ticket. frick St. Gabriel.
I was pulled over in St.Gabriel for what the cop said was "almost 15 over the limit" (I was also going about 57). I also plead my innocence to no help. Meanwhile, there was a brawl of about 15 people at the Popingos 1/4 of a mile from where these cops were stationed when I passed there. Really tested my patience on that one.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 7:59 pm to TexasTiger08
We don't have a justice system, we have a LEGAL system.
The way the government treats it's citizens is deplorable but people love to hate "criminals".
The way the government treats it's citizens is deplorable but people love to hate "criminals".
Posted on 3/24/21 at 8:19 pm to SCLibertarian
I believe this guy. There are several situations or cases I’ve seen on TV, heard on podcasts, or local news where I feel like a guy is guilty but evidence can’t prove it.
That’s not how I feel about my former coworker. I would say that we were decent friends when he lived here.
Unfortunately, this just gives me more reason to hate our society and these extremely liberal movements.
That’s not how I feel about my former coworker. I would say that we were decent friends when he lived here.
Unfortunately, this just gives me more reason to hate our society and these extremely liberal movements.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 8:26 pm to TexasTiger08
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It hurts to know this could happen.
This kind of shite sucks. Help us understand somethings.
Did the girl have any kind of grudge against him? Not one on the surface but dig deeper? Did he embarrass her in class one day? Give her a bad grade she disagreed with? Anything subtle as it may be.
And how old was she when the alleged abuse happened vs age when she told people about it.
Me personally. I'd never plea for a sex crime. Framed for drugs or a robbery sure? Put me the frick away before my kids have to wonder about me being a sex predator.
This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 3/24/21 at 8:30 pm to mikelbr
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Did the girl have any kind of grudge against him? Not one on the surface but dig deeper? Did he embarrass her in class one day? Give her a bad grade she disagreed with? Anything subtle as it may be.
Not that I know of. He never mentioned it. She had only been at that school for a week or so, and after the fact, the rumor was that this happened before. Apparently she hurt herself in gym and he was bandaging her ankle or something. He doubled as the trainer at the school. This is where she claimed it happened.
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And how old was she when the alleged abuse happened vs age when she told people about it.
She made the accusation about a week later. Just accused him of touched her under her shirt.
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Me personally. I'd never plea for a sex crime. Put me the frick away before my kids have to wonder about my MFing character.
I’ve always thought I’d feel this way. But when you are faced with 6 months versus 2-20, perspective changes. He could get out, return to work, and still be able to support his wife and kids financially.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 8:34 pm to TexasTiger08
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But when you are faced with 6 months versus 2-20, perspective changes. He could get out, return to work, and still be able to support his wife and kids financially.
True. That's one of the most fricked up things about our Justice system. They make the pleas SO attractive, the innocent are almost forced to take the deal.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 8:39 pm to mikelbr
Lots of guys who had sweetheart deals in hand but rejected them, greatly regret not taking them as the reality of prison sinks in ten years past the date where they would have already been released. The worst is guys who turn down those deals because of family pressure. Family won’t do the time for you but they will sure talk you into a stupid fight.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 8:40 pm to TexasTiger08
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She made the accusation about a week later. Just accused him of touched her under her shirt.
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versus 2-20,
That doesn't sound right at all.
It sounds like she was abused long before your friend met her.
And her being new to the school is a big red flag. Makes me wonder if the injury was exaggerated to get attention. Then the accusation was a sickly clever way to get attention/sympathy at a new school.
Some sick fricks in this world... The abusers and the attention whores.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 8:42 pm to TexasTiger08
I paid more than double what I should have (based on income) through Georgia's child support court for 18 years. Four different attorneys, never went before a judge, and never got a single review. You're supposed to be eligible for a review every 2 years.
These third party "enforcement" agencies are a joke. Lots of authority with zero oversight.
Catoosa County, Georgia is about as corrupt as it gets.
These third party "enforcement" agencies are a joke. Lots of authority with zero oversight.
Catoosa County, Georgia is about as corrupt as it gets.
This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 3/24/21 at 8:43 pm to TexasTiger08
Cop Board
This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 3/24/21 at 8:45 pm to mikelbr
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True. That's one of the most fricked up things about our Justice system. They make the pleas SO attractive, the innocent are almost forced to take the deal.
That's how DA's get those conviction rates so high. Plea to a lesser sentence and they get to nail another pelt to the wall.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 8:48 pm to Cossatotjoe
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Lots of guys who had sweetheart deals in hand but rejected them, greatly regret not taking them as the reality of prison sinks in ten years past the date where they would have already been released. The worst is guys who turn down those deals because of family pressure. Family won’t do the time for you but they will sure talk you into a stupid fight.
I know one in Angola for life b/c he wouldn't take a deal. Boggles my brain how the hell Lewis Unglesby and his family thought that was a good idea considering the evidence and testimony.
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