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re: Dodge Viper plant closing for good on 8/31
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:47 pm to goofball
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:47 pm to goofball
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but it was never a good sports car.
Wut? Vipers had some seriously impressive times at the Nurburgring. They are outstanding sports cars, not so much as a daily driver.
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:47 pm to el Gaucho
Damn I didn't realize there were so many mostly bald 40 something sales managers on this board
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:49 pm to weagle99
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If you want to sell more that 600 a year you have to have a no-shift option.
From what I remember, it was designed as a race car for the street... no traction control, no automatic trans, high HP, RWD
Pure driving experience was the goal
The concept it was based on was a modern Shelby Cobra... I think Dodge screwed up the marketing by allowing it to be in the same category as a corvette and not on the same level as a lambo (thus dragging down appeal and expectations)... keeping in mind that Lamborghini was a subsidiary of Chrysler and actually forged the original engine blocks
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:49 pm to jrodLSUke
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That is one beautiful car, but it had some serious performance issues for the price. It couldn't hang with Corvettes or Ford GTs on a track, so they put this huge rear spoiler on it to create downforce. But the spoiler was so big that it slowed down the top speed on the straights.
For the roughly same price[base viper] on a Vette, I can get better HP/weight and a badass magnetic suspension
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:50 pm to weagle99
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- Steady increase in performance by the Challenger (itself an old car)
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Brand new Viper in 2013 was outrun by old bodystyle Corvette ZR1
The Viper ACR holds 13 track records. It blew the doors off of pretty much everything. At one time (possibly still) it held more records than any other production car on the planet.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:55 pm to GEAUXT
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The Viper ACR holds 13 track records. It blew the doors off of pretty much everything. At one time (possibly still) it held more records than any other production car on the planet.
Dem Prowlers tho!
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:59 pm to Tigeralum2008
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Looked beautiful but couldn't perform to standard
This.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:59 pm to LNCHBOX
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Dodge Viper plant
A car company had an entire plant to build one model? That doesn't seem very efficient.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:02 pm to weagle99
I know a guy who has two of them, an older one and an almost brand new one.
It's unfortunate but most people who spend that bracket of money on a car really aren't looking for a shitty ride, tons of cabin noise,
3 pedals, and a car that in no way tries to prevent you from killing yourself with it. Not many trophy wives are interested in that. It's a mass produced race car and the market for that just isn't very big.
It's unfortunate but most people who spend that bracket of money on a car really aren't looking for a shitty ride, tons of cabin noise,
3 pedals, and a car that in no way tries to prevent you from killing yourself with it. Not many trophy wives are interested in that. It's a mass produced race car and the market for that just isn't very big.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:11 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
The 1996 viper with the blue paint job and the white racing stripes. That car was beautiful.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:16 pm to High C
quote:GM's Bowling Green assembly plant only makes Corvettes. They did make Cadillac XLR from 2003 - 2009, but from opening in 1981 until 2003 and then from 2010 until now they only make Vettes.
A car company had an entire plant to build one model? That doesn't seem very efficient.
Typically a plant assembles cars based on a particular body or platform. For GM, the Corvette and the XLR were the only vehicles on the Y Body platform, which is what Bowling Green assembles.
My guess is the Viper had its own unique platform and the plant specialized in assembling that one platform and cannot assemble other platforms without a major overhaul and re-tooling.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:17 pm to Paul Allen
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The 1996 viper with the blue paint job and the white racing stripes. That car was beautiful.
I concur
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:33 pm to Tigeralum2008
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Dem Prowlers tho!
My sister has that same color prowler with the matching trailer. not 100% but probably has less than 100 miles. tiny on the insides.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:38 pm to jrodLSUke
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That is one beautiful car, but it had some serious performance issues for the price. It couldn't hang with Corvettes or Ford GTs on a track, so they put this huge rear spoiler on it to create downforce. But the spoiler was so big that it slowed down the top speed on the straights.
You sure?
I thought the Viper was dominating it's class on the racing circuit.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:38 pm to PJinAtl
Thanks for that explanation. I wasn't aware of that, but felt that there had to be something.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:39 pm to Lacour
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Standard transmission driver guy is almost as bad as skinny jeans guy
LOl, whut? It is supposed to be a sports car, not a luxury car.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:50 pm to Barneyrb
I plan on owning one of those in the not too distant future. One annoying thing I've read is finding tires. There rear tires are a unique size and apparently very hard, and expensive, to find.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:51 pm to goofball
Great car to look at but not a great car to drive on the street. 4th Gen is the best but Gen I and Gen II were glorified kit cars and had the build quality/ fit and finish of a PT Cruiser.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:55 pm to Tigeralum2008
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Stealth!!!
I didn't care for the rear of the Stealth. But I'd like them to bring back the Mitsubishi 3000GT
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:58 pm to upgrayedd
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You sure?
I thought the Viper was dominating it's class on the racing circuit.
It did until GM began racing the C5R/C6R/C7R
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