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"Document fee" in connection with vehicle purchase
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:48 am
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:48 am
Seeing this while shopping online. Many are hefty. Does anyone know what this is? Thanks.
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:49 am to Zachary
1980's - Floor mats
2000's - Paint sealant
2020's - Document fee
2000's - Paint sealant
2020's - Document fee
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 9:49 am
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:49 am to Zachary
just know it is negotiable. wait until you are about to sign the paperwork and then tell them it is too high and you will go somewhere else.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:55 am to Zachary
It’s a scam
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:56 am to diat150
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just know it is negotiable. wait until you are about to sign the paperwork and then tell them it is too high and you will go somewhere else.
Ascension Honda let me walk over a $450 vin etch on my second car within 6 months when I was already paying over sticker.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:57 am to Zachary
It's an elective fee the dealership adds...you can try to negotiate it off or at least the equivalent amount off the sale price. But as an FYI the "Doc Fee" is intended to cover the cost of all the back office employees who deal with all the paperwork required to keep a dealership operating.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:59 am to achenator
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Ascension Honda let me walk over a $450 vin etch on my second car within 6 months when I was already paying over sticker.
id definitely walk over that. vin etch is the most useless shite you could possibly get screwed over with on a car deal.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:59 am to Shexter
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1980's - Floor mats
2000's - Paint sealant
2020's - Document fee
1996 - True coat
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:00 am to Zachary
Have you priced printer ink lately?
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:02 am to Zachary
It is standard everywhere but some places are way higher than others. It is negotiable, but you'll have a harder time with that one specifically than some other things you negotiate. It is basically their processing fee and it is a 'legit fee' for closing cost and crap and the sites aren't scamming you or anything, though we can all agree the amount they try and charge is absurd. I just bought a car and was negotiate the number down about half of what they charged and got some other waived.
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 10:03 am
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:03 am to sidewalkside
I thought that's what all the markup on vehicles, finance kickbacks, warranty sales, gap insurance, etc. . . did. So the doc fee is just another markup item. This is why stealerships have such a shitty name. Just put the price on the car and be done with it. Why not charge for the toilet paper in the bathroom and the electricity to cool the building as line items as well?
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:03 am to diat150
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id definitely walk over that. vin etch is the most useless shite you could possibly get screwed over with on a car deal.
Agreed, but the problem is still the shortage of cars these days. If you refuse the doc fees or Vin etch and threaten to walk, they might sell it out from undere you.
I bought a beater truck last summer for some projects. I showed up 2 hours after it was unloaded from the truck. Well after I signed my check, I heard two salesmen calling customers telling them not to bother coming in, it was already sold.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:06 am to tadman
quote:Good. frick 'em. I waste these pricks' time everytime I buy a car. I've walked over $150. They eventually call back but by that time I've bought elsewhere after lying about what I was offered at another dealership.
If you refuse the doc fees or Vin etch and threaten to walk, they might sell it out from undere you
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:08 am to Zachary
$400 on the car I just bought.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:09 am to Jake88
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Good. frick 'em. I waste these pricks' time everytime I buy a car. I've walked over $150. They eventually call back but by that time I've bought elsewhere after lying about what I was offered at another dealership.
Next time I buy a vehicle, I'm going in an hour before they close to start the process. And I'm taking the day off after, and may also take a dinner with me to eat while they're trying to sell me a truck. I'm on their time.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:12 am to WhiskeyThrottle
Look up dealer holdback if buying new. Negotiate that too if you can.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:13 am to WhiskeyThrottle
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I thought that's what all the markup on vehicles, finance kickbacks, warranty sales, gap insurance, etc. . . did. So the doc fee is just another markup item. This is why stealerships have such a shitty name. Just put the price on the car and be done with it.
Just bought a used car at a reputable local (Birmingham) used car dealer with NO additional markup.
Price is a non negotiable one, though.
So, I'm sure they just factored all those extra fees into the listed price.
Note though, the price listed was on the low side of the kbb.com listing of "private party" range.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:13 am to East Coast Band
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1996 - True coat
Ya. That true coat there comes from the factory.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:15 am to WhiskeyThrottle
Did this with my Land Cruiser, was there until almost 10PM.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:22 am to Zachary
It’s a BS fee you can usually get them to waive. Not sure how willing they’d be in the market though.
Supposedly it’s their file to file paperwork. I always tell them that should be included in the price and I’m not paying it. Some will dig in, others will give in. Guess it depends on how badly they want to sell it.
Supposedly it’s their file to file paperwork. I always tell them that should be included in the price and I’m not paying it. Some will dig in, others will give in. Guess it depends on how badly they want to sell it.
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