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re: Doctors getting vaccine - compelling case to get vaccine?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:52 am to Turf Taint
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:52 am to Turf Taint
Look, they are knowledgeable. The vaccine works. They deal with sick people. Them getting the vaccine makes sense.
However, they aren’t infallible. They go with the data that is presented to them. As of now, they trust that data (why shouldn’t they?).
My concerns are long term issues that may not be seen for awhile.
In short, given their circumstances, their choice makes sense, but for most, they will have a tougher decision to make.
On a final note, I had Covid prior to the vaccine being available to me. That fact is a major aspect of my decision to currently pass on getting the vaccine.
However, they aren’t infallible. They go with the data that is presented to them. As of now, they trust that data (why shouldn’t they?).
My concerns are long term issues that may not be seen for awhile.
In short, given their circumstances, their choice makes sense, but for most, they will have a tougher decision to make.
On a final note, I had Covid prior to the vaccine being available to me. That fact is a major aspect of my decision to currently pass on getting the vaccine.
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:53 am to Turf Taint
I mean most of the doctors at my hospital wouldn’t even go into covid rooms over the past year (save for this old 83 year badass) and would have therapists and nurses “fill them in.” So it doesn’t surprise me that they’d get it immediately.
I’ve done therapy with hundreds of these people at very close proximity often times having to have prolonged physical contact.
I’m far from anti vax, I’ve just never been desperate to get it due to our collective experiences as a department over the past year. Less than half of us have gotten it and nobody has contracted covid that we know of.
Interestingly enough 3 fully vaxed with moderna have gotten it over the past month.
When I eventually get it I kinda want the JJ as well but it’s not available around here in south Florida. Only moderna and Pfizer.
I’ve done therapy with hundreds of these people at very close proximity often times having to have prolonged physical contact.
I’m far from anti vax, I’ve just never been desperate to get it due to our collective experiences as a department over the past year. Less than half of us have gotten it and nobody has contracted covid that we know of.
Interestingly enough 3 fully vaxed with moderna have gotten it over the past month.
When I eventually get it I kinda want the JJ as well but it’s not available around here in south Florida. Only moderna and Pfizer.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:54 am
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:53 am to Turf Taint
This thread reminds me of when my wife asks me a question she already knows the answer to and I have to figure out why she’s doing it
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:56 am to Turf Taint
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medicine subject experts
All Doctors are "mRna medicine subject experts"
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:56 am
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:56 am to elcid
Hurts immune system
I did quite a bit of reading about how mRNA instructs immuno cells to create spike protein (w/o changing DNA).
Got overwhelmed real quick. Saw req't to keep to cryogenic temps from manufacturing to vein...
Decided JJ for that (and other) reason(s).
That said, by my non scientific count, very few naysayer Drs compared to pro vaccine Drs. Like factor of 1000's.
I did quite a bit of reading about how mRNA instructs immuno cells to create spike protein (w/o changing DNA).
Got overwhelmed real quick. Saw req't to keep to cryogenic temps from manufacturing to vein...
Decided JJ for that (and other) reason(s).
That said, by my non scientific count, very few naysayer Drs compared to pro vaccine Drs. Like factor of 1000's.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:56 am to Turf Taint
None of this shite matters unless it's mandated.
Then these threads are justified.
Until then it's all bullshite.
Then these threads are justified.
Until then it's all bullshite.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:57 am to Turf Taint
Yes. Every doctor I know is getting the vaccine.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:58 am to elcid
quote:You know the doctor quoted there actually didn’t say that and performed research that led him to state that there may be a need to give older, more vulnerable people a booster shot.
TD POST - RNA Researcher at Francis Crick Institute: "Pfizer Vaccine hurts immune system."
TD POST - Dr. with credentials a mile long says vaccine is poison, warns against it
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:58 am to Turf Taint
My wife is a physician. She was initially hesitant but decided to get the Pfizer vaccine a couple of weeks after it became available to her.
Her risk parameters are different than most people. She's dealing with sick patients every day. She's much more likely to get an infection than most of us.
Her risk parameters are different than most people. She's dealing with sick patients every day. She's much more likely to get an infection than most of us.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:59 am to Mike da Tigah
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Why do I feel like getting a vaccination
You are right.
When it comes to health, I try to think from natural world perspective and educating myself (purposefully ignore CNN/FOX/Rest of them) and go to medical sources. I think politics, both sides, far more dangerous than pandemic itself.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:00 am to Strannix
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All Doctors are "mRna medicine subject experts"
Don't forget the most knowledgeable.... the heroes. Some people disrespect them by calling them "nurses" or by not blindly following their advice because they got an undergrad degree and I'm somehow supposed to be impressed or amenable to their opinion because of it.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:00 am to Turf Taint
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For those of you who have / will not get vaccine, how do you view medicine subject experts who get the vaccine? Pretty compelling case for the vaccine, no?
It depends on who the medicine subject expert is in this case. My GP was too busy CYA-ing to give an opinion. On the other hand, my Mom was getting chemo at the time and I got a chance to talk to her oncologist directly. And in sheer luck, he had a patient who had participated in a mRNA cancer vaccine trial with Moderna so he had some good info. He advised to get it and got it himself (as well as his wife who is also a doctor).
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:00 am to Turf Taint
A doctor has a duty to protect his patients. Many are themselves very low risk from dyeing from the virus but could easily pass it on to vulnerable patients.
The general public does not have this duty. If you're old or fat get the vaccine. If you're young and fit you're basically getting the vaccine to protect others. Its up to the individual if its worth the risk.
The general public does not have this duty. If you're old or fat get the vaccine. If you're young and fit you're basically getting the vaccine to protect others. Its up to the individual if its worth the risk.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:02 am to Turf Taint
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Kidding...but I am curious why you put so little credence on medical expertise vs. laymen?
In fairness I'm not saying the average guy vs. a doctor. I'm saying the average doctor vs. me. And I'm not saying my conclusions are as accurate, I'm saying I can get 80% of the way there with some regularity if I put in the effort on subjects where there is a lot out there for me to read myself.
Most Americans are pretty stupid and can't do the things I mention (approach a topic without emotion, comprehend dense material, etc.). But a lot can, at least within reason. So a lot of times I'm seeking a physician's input to reinforce conclusions I've made as an appeal to authority. Like, "from what I've read recently, the studies are showing...do you think that's right"? And usually it's "yeah that's what the current thinking is, but there's also (some other wrinkle)."
Of course, you might annoy the shite out of your physician doing it, but in my experience doctors love it when you actually learn about the things they're going to talk to you about. Which is quite different from my wife showing up having read two WebMD articles and being convinced that her cough is cancer (and she's intelligent, but I think that's a female thing...)
Plus factor in that most of our physicians are accessing some of the same information, at least on this type of topic. COVID resources are everywhere, and your doctor is probably hearing some of the same stuff you are. He can process it better, but it's not like he's going to secret meetings where they give all the real info to MDs.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 10:05 am
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:04 am to Poker_hog
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A doctor has a duty to protect his patients. Many are themselves very low risk from dyeing from the virus but could easily pass it on to vulnerable patients.
The general public does not have this duty.
Huh? I’d say general public has a duty to look out for their fellow man, most just choose not too. If I am sick with a cold or the flu, I stay home from work 1) because I probably don’t feel well and 2) so I don’t spread it to other people who can bring it home and infect their own families.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 10:05 am
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:07 am to St Augustine
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Interestingly enough 3 fully vaxed with moderna have gotten it over the past month.
Thx for response
My understanding that does not eliminate risk of contracting Covid but teaches immune system how to fight it / minimize its effects.
We shall never know if said moderna dosages storage and handling were kept to -58 and -5 degrees F throughout supply chain. Wonder if not and that is why not effective?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:07 am to Poker_hog
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A doctor has a duty to protect his patients. Many are themselves very low risk from dyeing from the virus but could easily pass it on to vulnerable patients.
The general public does not have this duty.
Eh. I work with immunocompromised kids at work. I also see a variety of clients in office as an intern. I felt the same responsibility in getting the vaccine as I do in staying home/moving folks to telehealth when I’m sick with something contagious.
For what it’s worth, I also got my whooping cough booster a few years ago when we started seeing more frequent whooping cough outbreaks in schools due to unvaccinated students. So it’s not a novel concept to me.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:08 am to Crawdaddy
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hospital staff is around 50% at most That tell you right there
Hospital staff =/= doctors who went to medical school
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:09 am to jordan21210
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If I am sick with a cold or the flu, I stay home from work 1) because I probably don’t feel well and 2) so I don’t spread it to other people who can bring it home and infect their own families.
This! and thank you!
Self vs. selfless
As your fellow man (we think/do same), sincerely thank you.
This is all the difference in this matter and, like you said, most are selfish and why risk of some of us sitting in Tiger Stadium for a 2nd year in a row
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:12 am to Pettifogger
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Most Americans are pretty stupid and can't do the things I mention
Thx for response...and 100% agree
I also think we are married to same wife! Mine is quite smart (more than I), too. Internet PhD.
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