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re: Doctors getting vaccine - compelling case to get vaccine?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:13 am to Turf Taint
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:13 am to Turf Taint
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Self vs. selfless
Turning personal medical decisions into a moral issue is pure evil, so go frick yourself. No better than the fricking Jehovah's witnesses who refuse blood transfusions and let their kids die. The vaccine is not the only way to not die of covid. Treatment and prevention are proven and exist. This is not a binary situation as everyone likes to oversimplify it into.
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:14 am to Turf Taint
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For those of you who have / will not get vaccine, how do you view medicine subject experts who get the vaccine? Pretty compelling case for the vaccine, no?
Don't give a f*ck what some doctor says or does. I quit giving a shite about Covid a long time ago. Bring on whatever fake and gay variant they come up with next. I'm confident my immune system can handle any 99% virus that gets thrown at it.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:16 am to ShoeBang
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Turning personal medical decisions into a moral issue is pure evil, so go frick yourself.
Let me try Hallmark language instead (cause I am about 180-degrees different than what you just mis-interpreted / I mis-commmunicated):
Behave in a balanced way, for yourself and others, please.
Thank you. Good night.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:17 am to ShoeBang
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Turning personal medical decisions into a moral issue is pure evil, so go frick yourself. No better than the fricking Jehovah's witnesses who refuse blood transfusions and let their kids die. The vaccine is not the only way to not die of covid. Treatment and prevention are proven and exist. This is not a binary situation as everyone likes to oversimplify it into.
But for some it is a moral issue, especially if we are around folks who cannot be medically vaccinated. You can hem and haw about that all you like.
But you’re also oversimplifying that it should just be about deaths and not about potential for long COVID side effects. Our disability system is already at the brink. I’m not a big fan of overburdening it with folks who may end up unable to work due to those symptoms.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:18 am to Turf Taint
Now show me the same data for the people at the FDA, NIH, CDC, Pfizer, Moderna, J&J...
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:20 am to Turf Taint
Doctors and nurses are indoors around sick people all day, it makes sense for them to get the vaccine because they are exposed. I am not in constant close contact with people and I am not in the group of people who are at risk. If EVERY single person who caught covid died, then yes I would get it. But the facts are clear from day one. I am not against the vaccine - if you need it or want it then do what is right for you. I am against the government forcing people to get a shot for an illness that is not deadly to over 99.99% of the world's population.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:22 am to Buck Wylde
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I'm confident my immune system can handle any 99% virus that gets thrown at it.
I think that is case for majority of world's population.
However, I think I owe it to my fellow Earthlings, particularly those who are vulnerable, to not spread it. For some, that means vaccine. If not vaccine, hygiene/distance/masks, etc.
If it is just about you, and for too many I think it is, pls don't forget the other 7 billion people.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:23 am to BluegrassBelle
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I’m not a big fan of overburdening it with folks who may end up unable to work due to those symptoms.
I can say the same thing about the unknown long term ramifications of the vaccine that really isn't a vaccine if me not getting it puts the general public in danger. So the premise of it actually doing what vaccines do is false, thus why take the risk of an experimental gene treatment if I could still get the virus and take the proven peer reviewed meds that have been around for 50+ years with the same results just like India is doing with eradicating the disease while sporting only 4% vax rate?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:23 am to Pettifogger
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who are rabidly right wing who got the vaccine and encouraged me to do so
For me it has nothing to do with political affiliation. The vaccines have not been approved by the FDA, therefore I can't sue the manufacturer for any adverse side effects. If/When the FDA has approves the new vaccines I will consider getting one. Until then it's a hard no for me dawg.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:24 am to elcid
I took the Pfizer 2 shot.
My immune system is solid. I attribute that to my good genes and good parents. For as long as I can remember, from 2nd grade to today, I have always taken daily a multivitamin, V-C, V-E.
I rarely ever get a cold, rarely ever get the flu.
Rarely ever to me means 5,6,7 years.
My immune system is solid. I attribute that to my good genes and good parents. For as long as I can remember, from 2nd grade to today, I have always taken daily a multivitamin, V-C, V-E.
I rarely ever get a cold, rarely ever get the flu.
Rarely ever to me means 5,6,7 years.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:24 am to Toroballistic
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For me it has nothing to do with political affiliation. The vaccines have not been approved by the FDA, therefore I can't sue the manufacturer for any adverse side effects. If/When the FDA has approves the new vaccines I will consider getting one. Until then it's a hard no for me dawg.
It's this. And there are non-experimental treatments that are proven to work.
Now cue someone telling us we are stupid because we didn't choose to enter the medical field as if these basic logical ideas and conclusions aren't simple to understand.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:24 am to Turf Taint
quote:Not really, and I know several who aren't getting it. And I'm not 100% against it or anything.
For those of you who have / will not get vaccine, how do you view medicine subject experts who get the vaccine? Pretty compelling case for the vaccine, no?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:25 am to Turf Taint
What a sanctimonious piece of shite you are.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:25 am to BluegrassBelle
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But for some it is a moral issue, especially if we are around folks who cannot be medically vaccinated.
Great - so take the vaccine if you deem fit. Your choice. It just isn't for me and I don't need it.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:26 am to Turf Taint
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However, I think I owe it to my fellow Earthlings, particularly those who are vulnerable, to not spread it. For some, that means vaccine. If not vaccine, hygiene/distance/masks, etc.
If it is just about you, and for too many I think it is, pls don't forget the other 7 billion people.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:26 am to Lou
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I am against the government forcing people to get a shot for an illness that is not deadly to over 99.99% of the world's population.
I very much agree with you on this (ie, no gov't forcing) and I think you sound reasonable.
May I ask...when you go out, are you actively trying not to spread it to others? I have more than one close relative that if they got it would be a death sentence. That is the lens through which I behave. And several more who have been in ER or admitted to hospital in last 2 weeks (feels like NOT 00.1% to me)
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:26 am to Clint Torres
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Redneck nurses, not so much
This is becoming the prevailing “dis” from those who have taken the vaccine to those who haven’t. It doesn’t even take into account the large percentage of minorities, many of whom are high risk, who haven’t been vaccinated.
“I got it, and you didn’t. You must be a dumb redneck.”
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:28 am to Turf Taint
Why go by what doctors recommend? I'm more inclined to what pharmacists have to say about the vaccine. Damn doctors and their medications nearly killed my father-in-law. They had him on 13 different drugs and he became loopy as a hulahoop. My wife took his prescriptions to a druggist and he was alarmed at the medications being prescribed. Said that some meds were actually fighting each other. On his recommendation and with the doctor's approval his meds were reduced to seven and within three days he was his normal self again.
Most doctors don't know squat about the interactions of different medications. FWIW, I know two pharmacists who refuse to take the vaccines of today because of what's in it and the possible side effects and the fact that there is no long term study of the vaccine.
Most doctors don't know squat about the interactions of different medications. FWIW, I know two pharmacists who refuse to take the vaccines of today because of what's in it and the possible side effects and the fact that there is no long term study of the vaccine.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:31 am to OleWar
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sanctimonious
If caring about others qualifies me, guilty as charged.
If you think I think I am on some moral higher ground, I have a 1.5 liter bottle of Bourbon that I am about to pour deep into tonight (vacation, baby!) that says otherwise.
In the meantime, kiss my moral azz.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:34 am to Epic Cajun
Curious, have a passport?
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