re: Do you TRULY OWN anything?

Yes you own it. But you don’t own the public uses and space. This is a dumb thread.

Can I post pic of your wife?

u could sell that to a collector for cash, no one knows nuttin

Gold has historically been stolen from US citizens by the government with the threat of imprisonment. So, you “own” it but not nearly as much as you own your gun. The hierarchy is pretty evident.

Bitcoin can actually be owned without that veiled implication of violence.

So in summary, you can own bitcoin and you can own a gun. And you can also own things that the gun allows you to own.

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Government employees?

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Yes, that’s one subset of them.

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Pay your house/lans off you don’t own it. Stop paying yearly property taxes and they take your home/ land that “you own”.

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If you have the means to defend and reject all attempts by anyone who would try to exercise authority over your land, then, sure, you own it and no one can make you pay anything for it. If you are enjoying the protection of a government and its attendant military, police and civil functions protecting the physical integrity of your land/house from any others who do not have the recognized ownership that you have, then that comes at a cost. You are subject to that sovereign and have certain responsibilities as a result. If you can’t meet those responsibilities, then your land will eventually be auctioned and transferred to someone who can meet those responsibilities (with you receiving the balance after taxes are paid, it’s not just taken from you without compensation).

Nah... Don't get rid of these 3 things now. I've paid for them all my life and I want to use them when I'm eligible.

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But you will owe taxes on the proceeds of the sale if you ever sell it.

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Would you? Even if he got top value it would still be less than 2K. Most of these sales are private cash deals. I doubt him or anybody else would claim or report it. Maybe if he has it insured or something like that. But I don't see how it would come up..

I sold a couple dozen eagles a few years back and walked out with a couple grand. I just invested it in other coins..

You own your house or car or boat if you have fully paid for it.
I, or anyone else, can't go take any of those from you without being arrested.

The government is just looking for ways to tax its citizens to pay for roads and services, etc.
Would it make a difference to you if they took away property taxes and just added the same to sales taxes and or income taxes?

Now, to question why all taxes are as high as they are, that's an entirely different subject that I bet we both agree on.

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Medicare, medicaid and social secuity make of the majority of the budget by far. Got to get rid of most of that waste of money.

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social security is the biggest but cut them all.

social is 22%
medicare is 14%
defense is 13%
medicade is 9%

all of them have incredible amounts of waste but i'm still mad about more debt going to blowing up other countries then money being spent to rebuild them, then the population be shipped into our country, then stealing on mass via fraud.

yes we need to cut some social programs but that doesn't mean we don't need to cut the department of war some either.