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re: Do you think public executions would bring down crime rates?
Posted on 3/28/14 at 4:03 pm to oldcharlie8
Posted on 3/28/14 at 4:03 pm to oldcharlie8
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that's why, in Singapore, you can leave your car running when going grocery shopping.
Um, no. This is simply not true. Singapore does have one of the lowest crime rates in the world, but petty crimes such as theft are still very common. I've spent plenty of time there and never seen anyone leave their car running, or not lock up their valuables. Police there wouldn't take kindly to that type of irresponsible behavior.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 4:09 pm to Tigerlaff
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Dumb criminals without role models learn by watching. They don't have anyone to scare them about the abstract possibility of a lethal injection after decades of appeals.
Chances are they grew up in a culture of violence and probably have friends that have been murdered. However this doesn't deter them from doing the same things (such as drug dealing) that their deceased friends did. Ex-convicts have a high rate of recidivism. Obviously their harsh prison sentences didn't deter them from committing crimes again.
A person that would steal a bottle of liquor or bag of candy from the store is not as fricked up as a person that would commit murder. A person that would go so far as to commit murder would only be deterred by having a relative/friend/loved one punished in retribution.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 4:27 pm to Old Money
Yes, if the death row inmates didn't have to wait decades first.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 4:43 pm to CroakaBait
Drop 'em all off on an island with no food and way to get off...
Something similar to that~
quote:
Do you like the island? My grandmother had an island. Nothing to boast of. You could walk around it in an hour, but still it was, it was a paradise for us. One summer, we went for a visit and discovered the place had been infested with rats. They'd come on a fishing boat and gorged themselves on coconut. So how do you get rats off an island? Hmm? My grandmother showed me. We buried an oil drum and hinged the lid. Then we wired coconut to the lid as bait and the rats would come for the coconut and... they would fall into the drum. And after a month, you have trapped all the rats, but what do you do then? Throw the drum into the ocean? Burn it? No. You just leave it and they begin to get hungry. And one by one...
[mimics rat munching sound]
Raoul Silva: they start eating each other until there are only two left. The two survivors. And then what? Do you kill them? No. You take them and release them into the trees, but now they don't eat coconut anymore. Now, they only eat rat.
Something similar to that~
Posted on 3/28/14 at 4:55 pm to RBWilliams8
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Yes. Or at least harsh as frick prisons.
This right here
Posted on 3/28/14 at 4:57 pm to Old Money
Public hangings in the town square.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 5:04 pm to Old Money
Your average gang banger doesn't give a shite about the fear of death. He probably grew up in a house where the women got their arse beat, drugs were everywhere, violence always on the tv, and killings happening all of the time where the little bastard lives.
Little guy is fcked in the head and either on drugs or selling them when he kills someone. The thought that he might get hung in a public square wouldn't bother him at all.
Same goes for fcked in the head people like the Newton school shooter.
Little guy is fcked in the head and either on drugs or selling them when he kills someone. The thought that he might get hung in a public square wouldn't bother him at all.
Same goes for fcked in the head people like the Newton school shooter.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 5:06 pm to Old Money
Public executions wouldn't do anything.
Is everyone forced to watch? Would being exposed to gruesome executions from an early age have negative side effects on society?
What we have here is a bunch of mostly morally upstanding people, who wouldn't commit violent crimes under normal circumstances, theorizing on the effects of public executions.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't need to see someone hanged to not walk up and kill the next person I see.
Until we can get some feedback from people who have committed violent crimes and whether or not they think they could have been deterred by public executions, the whole point is moot.
Is everyone forced to watch? Would being exposed to gruesome executions from an early age have negative side effects on society?
What we have here is a bunch of mostly morally upstanding people, who wouldn't commit violent crimes under normal circumstances, theorizing on the effects of public executions.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't need to see someone hanged to not walk up and kill the next person I see.
Until we can get some feedback from people who have committed violent crimes and whether or not they think they could have been deterred by public executions, the whole point is moot.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 5:29 pm to JumpingTheShark
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Not sure, but I would watch em for damn sure, and pay for a ticket too, thus generating revenue.
It probably wouldn't do shite but the PPV would likely generate some decent revenue.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 5:30 pm to Old Money
Ser Ilyn bring me his head!!
Posted on 3/28/14 at 5:32 pm to Old Money
as much as I would like to believe it does, I have seen nothing to indicate that it would have an effect...actually the only purpose public executions really serve are to enable a government to opress its own citizens...notice, that public executions typically take place in strong dictatorships...
Posted on 3/28/14 at 5:35 pm to Trout Bandit
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Ser Ilyn bring me his head!!
Ned's public execution actually inspired young Robb to rebel against the tyrannous young Joffrey. But then again, he wasn't there to see it.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 5:38 pm to Spankum
at no time in history has public executions really served as a deterrent for crimes. so i suspect it wouldn't help in today's age.
executions do slow down recidivism, but that's it.
executions do slow down recidivism, but that's it.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 5:40 pm to Rebel
Reb, we are being suprisingly open minded for a couple of old cenla boys... 
Posted on 3/28/14 at 5:49 pm to Old Money
si.
wait.
no.
but it would greatly reduce recidivism.
wait.
no.
but it would greatly reduce recidivism.
This post was edited on 3/28/14 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 3/28/14 at 5:53 pm to Spankum
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as much as I would like to believe it does, I have seen nothing to indicate that it would have an effect...actually the only purpose public executions really serve are to enable a government to opress its own citizens...notice, that public executions typically take place in strong dictatorships...
They serve another purpose, as grotesque, ghoulish entertainment catering to the public's baser instincts. Public executions were typically popular, raucous spectator events, which is one of the main reaons the practice was discontinued.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 6:07 pm to Old Money
If there were enough of them.
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