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Do you think medieval people built immunities to flea and lice type itch?

Posted on 2/5/21 at 4:41 pm
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33082 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 4:41 pm
It’s common historical knowledge that people who lived in these big medieval towns were dirty and riddled with fleas/lice. Fleas are the main way the plague spread and it killed 50%+ of the populations of some of these places.
Do you think the itching and discomfort of these bugs was something these people had built resistances to? I dk how you live your life with fleas and lice all over you, sounds miserable and like something you would find a way to stop.
This post was edited on 2/5/21 at 4:44 pm
Posted by Y0TE
Member since Jan 2021
107 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 4:42 pm to
Subtle I’ve got fleas brag
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120437 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 4:43 pm to
When you don't know anything else, it just becomes part of life.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 2/5/21 at 4:44 pm to
Naw baw, and even asking this question is kinda silly.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 2/5/21 at 4:44 pm to
Surely them medieval women didn't have crotch fleas.

Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/5/21 at 4:44 pm to
i think it was more of the animals in the cities being riddled with fleas and lice. obviously people got fleas and lice more frequently but i doubt they just dealt with them all day ignoring them
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33082 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 4:46 pm to
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think it was more of the animals in the cities being riddled with fleas and lice. obviously people got fleas and lice more frequently but i doubt they just dealt with them all day ignoring them

No, the animals had fleas, and passed those fleas to the people, who then got the diseases from the fleas. The animals didn’t pass the diseases directly to the people for the most part
Posted by tgrmeat
Member since Sep 2020
5722 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 4:47 pm to
I got the crabs once when I was in college and it was just awful. Even after I knew they were gone I had this "phantom" itching and skin crawling sensation.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 4:47 pm to
Catch the plague and die - problem solved!
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
25405 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 4:57 pm to
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No, the animals had fleas, and passed those fleas to the people, who then got the diseases from the fleas. The animals didn’t pass the diseases directly to the people for the most part


diseases are still passed on from insect bites today, it doesn't mean they are living on the person 24/7. i'd imagine if a medieval person felt a flea on them they would knock it off or kill it
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 2/5/21 at 4:57 pm to
The reason they wore so many wigs was cause they shaved their heads bald to keep the lice out of their heads....
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
25405 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 4:58 pm to
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In 1296, for example, Bernard de Gordon associated lice particularly with the urban poor and members of monastic orders, groups known for living densely and taking less care to bathe (among other things, not washing regularly by choice was perceived as a demonstration of ascetic spirituality and holiness. The wearing of hairshirts as, yup, another practice of asceticism was likewise common among medieval religious men and women and would have allowed for vermin infestations as well).

People tried means both chemical and mechanical to rid themselves of lice. The narrowest-toothed combs discovered in archaeological digs tend to have remnants of lice trapped between the teeth. This matches surviving woodcuts of women combing men's hair that illustrate the "pediculi" passage in the earliest printed medical texts.

Medical texts record a range of options for dealing with lice. The Trotula, a 12th century anthology of medical and hygenic advice famous for its focus on women and partial female authorship, says that lice in pubic and armpit hair are best dealt with through a mixture of ash and oil. Lice on the head require a mixture of aloe, mercury, and incense.

Mercury in particular was a commonly cited cure by the late Middle Ages, and in fact, is one of the ways we can connect medical texts with medical practice. (NOT always a given in the Middle Ages. See also: one of the prescribed means of contraception in the Islamic medical tradition is for a woman to spit three times into the mouth of a frog.) The body of Ferdinand II of Aragon, who had much more success as the king of Naples, was discovered to have both a massive lice infestation and signs of treatment with mercury. Archaeologists posit that the mercury was indeed applied in an attempt to treat the lice. (Fornanciari et al., 2009)


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Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44464 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 5:21 pm to
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The wearing of hairshirts


This is some fricked up shite btw.

ETA: All of you Malazan Book of the Fallen fans should immediately recognize this term.



This post was edited on 2/5/21 at 5:29 pm
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/5/21 at 5:31 pm to
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Fleas are the main way the plague spread


Wrong. Everyone knows that the plague was created in a midevil Chinese lab in Wuhan. Disease has never ever ever jumped from animals to humans ever.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44464 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 5:33 pm to
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midevil


You would help your cause if you could actually spell Comrade Brannigan.

Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
21646 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 5:44 pm to
Watch the TV show Hoarders and wonder how they live the way they do. It’s the......you know....the thing... c”mon man!
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:29 pm to
quote:

Surely them medieval women didn't have crotch fleas.


Pussy probably looked like a grilled cheese sammich
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
9713 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:47 pm to
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Everyone knows that the plague was created in a midevil Chinese lab in Wuhan.

You realize it’s not even debatable that the virus that caused the pandemic 100% came from a lab, right.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 7:01 pm to
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You realize it’s not even debatable that the virus that caused the pandemic 100% came from a lab, right


Sure it was chief
Posted by AGudBoiWhoDidnDoNutn
Member since Jun 2019
4 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 7:04 pm to
Big mad
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