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re: Do you believe rap/hip hop music has been a net positive or negative for society?

Posted on 3/29/19 at 10:49 am to
Posted by CougarBait
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Posted on 3/29/19 at 10:49 am to

WSMFP
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 3/29/19 at 10:49 am to
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We rightly demonize rap for its lyrics that glorify drugs, murder, womanizing etc. but we conveniently ignore it in country music.


I love Chris Knight, but Down the River is straight up about a revenge killing for his brother's murder, and it winds up with him plotting a second murder.

People excuse this sort of thing as storytelling and playing a character in country and rock, but act like rap is 100% real life. Rap has the same storytelling and playing of characters aspect as any other music.

A lot of people miss this in someone like Kendrick Lamar. On Good Kid, MAAD City, he raps as a teenager making stupid decisions in the face of peer pressure. I've seen people post lyrics from that like he's endorsing things like smoking weed and guns, when the point is pretty much the opposite.
Posted by Louie T
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Posted on 3/29/19 at 10:54 am to
Anyone who has poured through Kendrick lyrics and thinks all rap music is unstimulating and uninteresting is an idiot. Feel free to not like his sound, but his stuff is plenty meaningful.
This post was edited on 3/29/19 at 10:55 am
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 3/29/19 at 12:36 pm to
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About one out of every 4 people murdered in BR seem to be aspiring rappers or actual rappers.

quote:

17-year-old aspiring rapper gunned down blocks from his Baton Rouge home off Winbourne Avenue

This story broke the day after my quote above.

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Posted by Supermoto Tiger
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Posted on 3/29/19 at 1:23 pm to
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Do you believe rap/hip hop music has been a net positive or negative for society?

Seriously?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/31/19 at 12:57 pm to
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Did three quarters of the songs talk about killing people and shoving your dick in a bitch while selling drugs? I know Johnny Cash shot a man to watch him die in one song but I can't recall Lefty Frizzell, Ernest Tubbs and Ray Price crooning about the time they nutted on a bitch assed ho and kept it real by killing cops.
Many of the songs talked about killing, adultery, fighting, drugs and alcohol.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
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Posted on 3/31/19 at 1:54 pm to
Rap has definitely had a negative influence on society.

Also, anyone that listens to rap is young and stupid, or just plain stupid.
Posted by stampman
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 3/31/19 at 9:56 pm to
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Rap has definitely had a negative influence on society.

Also, anyone that listens to rap is young and stupid, or just plain stupid.


This guy gets it!
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 3/31/19 at 10:00 pm to
Negative. .as a white kid I listened to it for the beats.
. To me it seems many black kids listen to it as a life plan.

Member when there were lyrics like
"Considered a fool because you dropped out of high school"
Or
"Before you reup buy a laptop, go into business for yourself and set some goals"

Now it's all about making Crack money.

I listen to it, but inner city kids are hurt by it
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 3/31/19 at 10:02 pm to
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 To me it seems many black kids listen to it as a life plan. 

This is absolutely the case. Anyone arguing otherwise is just being disingenuous
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
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Posted on 3/31/19 at 10:02 pm to
there is some socially conscious hip hop, but as far a “net”, probably a loss.
Posted by yaboidarrell
westbank
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 3/31/19 at 10:08 pm to
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Rap has definitely had a negative influence on society.
True. Most mainstream rap is poisonous filth that's corrupted our youth.
quote:

Also, anyone that listens to rap is young and stupid, or just plain stupid.
Not all rap is crap. J Cole and Denzel Curry are pretty good mainstream rappers and there are quite a few positive underground rappers.
This post was edited on 3/31/19 at 10:14 pm
Posted by Spankum
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Posted on 3/31/19 at 10:19 pm to
I honestly don't think music has much effect on society either positive or negative. Generation after generation always has some hysteria about music corrupting the youth...but I can't say I have ever seen any evidence that this actually occurs. I think music is something catchy that sticks in your mind, but I am not sure the majority of people ever even think about the meaning of the associated lyrics.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/31/19 at 11:17 pm to
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Anyone who has poured through Kendrick lyrics and thinks all rap music is unstimulating and uninteresting is an idiot. Feel free to not like his sound, but his stuff is plenty meaningful.


quote:

Aye, I remember syrup sandwiches and crime allowances
Finesse a **** with some counterfeits But now I'm counting this
Parmesan where my accountant lives in fact I'm down at this D'usse with my boo bae, tastes like kool aid for the analysts
Girl, I can buy your arse the world with my paystub
Ooh that pussy good, won't you sit it on my taste bloods
I get way too petty once you let me do the extras Pull up on your block, then break it down we playing Tetris A.M. to the P.M., P.M. to the A.M. funk
Piss out your per diem you just gotta hate em, funk If I quit your BM
I still ride Mercedes, funk If I quit this season I still be the greatest, funk
My left stroke just went viral
Right stroke put lil baby in a spiral
Soprano C, we like to keep it on a high note It's levels to it, you and I know, bitch be humble


quote:

If I could smoke fear away, I'd roll that mothafricka up
And then I'd take two puffs I'm high now, I'm high now I'm high now,
I'm high now Life's a bitch, pull them panties to the side now
I don't think I could find a way to make it on this earth






I do like KL and agree for the most part but he’s got his fair share of dumb gangsta.
This post was edited on 4/1/19 at 5:30 am
Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
11217 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 11:22 pm to
Just like drugs or alcohol, to the weak it’s like krypton. Definitely a negative.

And I love hip hop. Been listening for 30 plus years. I do like the beats more than the words though.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/31/19 at 11:23 pm to
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April Fools
Posted by shamrock
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
4138 posts
Posted on 3/31/19 at 11:24 pm to
It’s not the actual lyrics that 14 y/o’s are affected by, its the lifestyle portrayed by the rappers. Kids without a stable environment or strong guidance by an adult male (particularly boys) are compromised by this life goal.
Posted by TaTa Toothy
Everything in its right place
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 3/31/19 at 11:28 pm to
Time for Arrested Development to release another album.
Posted by OU812
Michigan
Member since Apr 2004
13677 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 1:10 am to
100% Negative and has been since gangsta rap hit in 1991.
Posted by OU812
Michigan
Member since Apr 2004
13677 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 1:15 am to
Blame the record companies and producers. They realized in the late 80s that rap was cheap to produce, being that no bands or musical instruments were needed and all that was required was a dude that could rhyme or talk fast.

The original definition of RAP was an unorganized conversation...think about it.
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