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re: Do you believe police have a right to order you inside while you're on your property?
Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:59 am to Midtiger farm
Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:59 am to Midtiger farm
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If you think the police can just go around and make up laws to get you to do what they want then you are part of the problem
Can they actually do it, as in legally? No
Do they think they can do it? Yes, without question. That’s what leads to situations like OP
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Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:00 am to Jon Ham
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That’s fricked up. It cannot be legal to assault someone for simply standing on their own front porch.
Most of the covid shutdown shouldnt have been legal either so frick it
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:00 am to Jon Ham
quote:yet the riot mob is allowed to do it.
It cannot be legal to assault someone for simply standing on their own front porch.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:02 am to Hangover Haven
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You will never win an argument with a cop in the streets.
They weren’t on the street, they’re on their fricking porch...
Hate to break it to you, but police can give you orders while you’re standing on your porch.
If those folks had gone inside they would not have been shot. There is really nothing else to it.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:04 am to Box Geauxrilla
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Show me an example of someone who was murdered by police that was following commands and not resisting during their entire encounter.
How about that baw that was in the Vegas hotel? He was doing everything he could to try and comply. They murdered him while he was crying and begging for his life.
It was disgusting.
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 9:10 am
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:06 am to Box Geauxrilla
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Hate to break it to you, but police can give you orders while you’re standing on your porch.
If those folks had gone inside they would not have been shot. There is really nothing else to it.
Go frick yourself. Move to a fricking dictatorship if you want to live in that kind of society.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:06 am to Box Geauxrilla
quote:Police can give you orders anywhere. That has nothing to do with whether those orders are lawful.
Hate to break it to you, but police can give you orders while you’re standing on your porch.
If those folks had gone inside they would not have been shot. There is really nothing else to it.
If the police hadn't been making and enforcing unlawful orders, those folks would not have been shot. There is really nothing else to it.
Do you see how easy it is to flip the logic around?
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 9:09 am
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:07 am to Box Geauxrilla
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Show me an example of someone who was murdered by police that was following commands and not resisting during their entire encounter.
Here you go.
Breonna Taylor
Aiyana Jones
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 9:13 am
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:08 am to Box Geauxrilla
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Hate to break it to you, but police can give you orders while you’re standing on your porch.
If those folks had gone inside they would not have been shot. There is really nothing else to it.
That's not how this works. Police can't make arbitrary laws and then punish you for breaking them. They enforce laws, not create them.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:09 am to NYNolaguy1
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That's not how this works. Police can't make arbitrary laws and then punish you for breaking them. They enforce laws, not create them.
Yeah, from his mindset, I guess the police can see your wife on the porch and order her to blow the entire force for being outside. Guess they can make up any law they want.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:10 am to TDcline
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Officer: “Get inside”
Idiot stays on porch filming.
Other Officer: “Go inside, now. Get inside”
Idiot does idiot things
Officer: (Loudly and staring right at idiot) “GO INSIDE”
Officers: (ok frick it. We’ve told them enough) “light em up”
Idiot: “(Screaming noises & Shrills) Wee-Woo geet eeen. Geeet eeeen”
Idiot on social media: #iworshipblackpeople #disisoppression #justiceforsingledigitIQs
So people were patriots for screaming in the faces of officers because they wanted to get a hair cut, because asking them to shelter in place was tyranny and a violation of their constitutional rights, but someone peacefully standing on their porch deserves whatever is coming to them because they didn't immediately obey when an officer told them to go inside their house.
Ok, now I'm *really* confused.
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 10:13 am
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:11 am to Box Geauxrilla
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Hate to break it to you, but police can give you orders while you’re standing on your porch.
Show me some proof of that....
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:12 am to OMLandshark
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Go frick yourself. Move to a fricking dictatorship if you want to live in that kind of society.
Sorry, you live in that kind of society as well.
You can get a ticket for parking in your own yard in most city limits.
Not saying it’s right, but it’s the world we live in.
To the other folks who mentioned Tamir Rice and Breonna Taylor, I’ll say this. If you point a gun at an officer, you’re taking your life and those around you in your own hands. Even fake guns that you remove the orange tip so it will look real.
Argue morals and the way things should be all you want, I’m telling you the basic steps you should take to not die at the hands of police. It’s common sense.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:12 am to Hangover Haven
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Show me some proof of that....
How the police should be in his mind.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:13 am to NYNolaguy1
Ehhhhhh. Unsure. Depends on the circumstance
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:13 am to NYNolaguy1
Police can't "make" arbitrary laws (that's the legislature's job), but they are arguably under legal duty to "enforce" them. That gets into a bigger ethical question of whether police officers have a duty to follow unlawful orders from above (i.e., to enforce or not enforce a "law" they believe is unlawful).
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 9:15 am
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:16 am to Box Geauxrilla
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Sorry, you live in that kind of society as well.
Where the police can shoot me on my own front porch minding my own fricking business? I don’t fricking think so. I hope these people sue the frick out of that police force and get a nice sum.
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Argue morals and the way things should be all you want, I’m telling you the basic steps you should take to not die at the hands of police. It’s common sense.
Yeah, let’s allow the police to do whatever they want. You want to come in and frick my wife, go frick her. frick her right in the pussy. I don’t see how this could possibly go wrong. This is absolute cuck behavior and you are a fricking spineless pussy.
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 9:17 am
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:16 am to Box Geauxrilla
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If you point a gun at an officer, you’re taking your life and those around you in your own hands.
Breonna Taylor didn't point a gun at anyone.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:16 am to Box Geauxrilla
quote:In a civil society, it shouldn't be the civilian's responsibility to take steps to not die at the hands of police.
basic steps you should take to not die at the hands of police
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:19 am to Gravitiger
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Police can't "make" arbitrary laws (that's the legislature's job), but they are arguably under legal duty to "enforce" them. That gets into a bigger ethical question of whether police officers have a duty to follow unlawful orders from above (i.e., to enforce or not enforce a "law" they believe is unlawful).
Seems like their issue here was the police’s interpretation of the lawful order. Did the curfew order explicitly stated that all citizens were required to be home and inside during curfew hours? Usually, curfew orders require citizens to be clear of public streets and areas, not actually inside a home.
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