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re: Do they still wire houses for telephones? Do you have a residential land line?

Posted on 4/18/20 at 11:34 am to
Posted by Breaux
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 11:34 am to
To call 9-1-1.
Posted by Booyow
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 11:37 am to
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Source: Old telephone man.


How do I make a ring down in my house?
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33740 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 11:40 am to
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Try Cat8.


Found the sucker.
Posted by Passing Wind
Dutchtown
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:13 pm to
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Waste of money

$750 installed really isn’t a huge deal when you’re building a home. Especially in the upper home range. Sorry I don’t see the point in not building what you will need in years to come for literally $150-200 more versus what’s needed 2 years ago
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You don't have 25GB internet at your house and you likely don't have a single piece of equipment that supports it.

It’s not about now...it’s for the future living here where it does require it.
This post was edited on 4/18/20 at 12:15 pm
Posted by Passing Wind
Dutchtown
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:14 pm to
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Found the sucker.

See above post.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:14 pm to
If the world ends you can use your landline to call no one.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:16 pm to
I can’t remember when exactly we got rid of our landline phone. I’m thinking sometime around the 2010 range give or take a couple of years.

Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:19 pm to
We don't really use many wired connections at home. I've got one desktop connected to my router, everything else just connects to the wireless mesh network.
Posted by Passing Wind
Dutchtown
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:24 pm to
Ours is used for 3 XBox’s, 7 smart TV’s, security system SmartHome system and an office computer & printer. I had them put one next to each tv cable outlet all of these plug into the Ethernet ports. All TV’s stream, and we don’t have regular “cable”. The wiring runs to a central closet in the office where it’s hooked into a managed network switch. Same closet has a Nighthawk router for wireless. Everything can be running in the home on the network and nothing lags.
This post was edited on 4/18/20 at 12:31 pm
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:24 pm to
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Try Cat8.


Are we really flexing on network cabling now?
Posted by Passing Wind
Dutchtown
Member since Apr 2015
4853 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:25 pm to
No moron it was a recommendation to try using it.
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:29 pm to
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Issue is this: POTS (Plain Old Telephone Service) is pretty much a thing of the past—at least on the consumer side. Just about every home with a “landline” is actually using high speed internet to deliver Voice Over IP (VOIP). So, the phone service dies when hsia goes down. But, more generally, the dial tone is starting at the modem, not down the road from a telco Central Office. Houses are wired for data which can be used to deliver phone service, but they mostly are not.

Source: Old telephone man.


This is all true, but the infrastructure for POTS is still in place. It's used mainly for analog fax, house alarms, and 911 service now.

Source: Dad worked for South Central Bell-BellSouth for 35 years

This post was edited on 4/18/20 at 12:30 pm
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:32 pm to
Had a house built with none. However we had one put in running into my basement office. I deal with a couple Japanese companies and there are still somethings they will only send by fax.
Posted by FCP
Delta State Univ. - Fightin' Okra
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:41 pm to
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How do I make a ring down in my house?
WTF is a "ring down"?

You can deliver dial tone anywhere by just using one twisted pair of copper wires. Punch down the tip and ring sides on both ends and you're good to go. Doesn't even have to be a twisted pair at short distance.

For most of our work, we'll use a regular Cat5 punchdown and just connect the white/blue pairs to the block on each end.

In the more info than you could possibly want category, you can actually use the same Cat5 (or Cat 6, 7, 8, etc.) to backfeed voip on one pair then use the orange and green pairs to backfeed 100Mbps data. Obviously, the 2 pair data backfeed has limited capacity in that it can't exceed 100Mbps, but when you're hooking up a blazing fast 3Mbps DSL connection, that's not really a huge limiting factor...
Posted by Chef Free Gold Bloom
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:41 pm to
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Do builders wire new residential homes for telephones still? Or is it by request only now?


It’s through your modem and internet line
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:46 pm to
Yes. I still have one. Learned lesson after Katrina and all towers were knocked out.
Posted by FCP
Delta State Univ. - Fightin' Okra
Member since Sep 2010
5172 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:52 pm to
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the infrastructure for POTS is still in place
For the most part, it is. But, we have started seeing some of the areas where they have laid fiber and have already started pulling out the old copper facilities. The crossbox on Springfield Road near Magnolia Beach (near Tiki Tubing) was severely damaged in the 2016 flood. We pulled in a temporary setup to get folks back online, but a few months ago they pulled out both the temp setup and all the old equipment.

Now, if folks over there want "landline" service, they're getting a fiber optic connection and voip.
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
6913 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:52 pm to
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No moron it was a recommendation to try using it.


Are you doing 25GB on your home network? At the cost of Cat8 vs Cat6 (roughly 10x), it’s hard to justify. Nothing you listed in your other post comes close to maxing Cat6, or even Cat5 really.
This post was edited on 4/18/20 at 12:55 pm
Posted by Mr Clean
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:56 pm to
I have one in case I lose my cell phone or it taps out, and I need to immediately interview a coach or player.

As a freelancer, I miss out on income if I don’t get the story by the newspaper’s deadline.

But I don’t know how much of that work I’ll be doing going forward
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 1:00 pm to
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Are there any suggestions for what this prewired system can be used for in the present day?
Facebook Hotline system

The K Word is all the rage here, it must be important.

1993-era house here.

No phone service since we bought it 7+ years ago, we did use it for Internet until recently.
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