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re: Do "Saul Goodman" style lawyers make good money?

Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:29 pm to
I'm friends with the family if the guy that was my dad's attorney. He was every bit Saul Goodman, but a hunter, and we had some great times hunting together. He didn't give a frick about anything and just wanted to hunt, fish and frick his wife and anything else that moved. Fun people, if you're on the right side of them.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12881 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:35 pm to
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Holy crap Gordon has a huge staff

Nah, judging by his billboards, I’d say he’s just overcompensating.
Posted by Bill Parker?
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 1:13 am to
Hell yes they do. I went to school with a bunch a blowhards that stumbled into law school. They're still blowhards, and they stumble into big paydays without fail.

I should have followed my calling as a stumbling blowhard
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 1:22 am to
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Look at how many billboards Gordon McKernan has. Those aren't free.
There's also a white Ferrari in town with the plate "GETGRDN"
Posted by LeroyBrown
South Side Of Chicago
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 5:26 am to
My guess is that a few do and most do not.
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
2668 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:43 am to
Personal injury lawyers are a big reason Louisiana is a complete shithole.
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:49 am to
Do you mean White Collar Crime lawyers?

It’s a hit or miss
Posted by tidalmouse
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:52 am to
Every case they take is probably a Felony.That starts at $2,500.

I would think they do all right.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119116 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:56 am to
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they the used car salesman of the lawyer world.


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decent money


Better than decent money. Suite at your favorite college football stadium money
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8623 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 8:29 am to
All it takes is one PI case.
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 8:47 am to
I know a guy who works for Alexander Shunnarah in Birmingham. And by “works for,” I mean he’s a recent grad who signed on with him as a contractor. If some calls Shunnarah, 99% of the time they get sent to one of his many contractors. They work the case, and they keep 30% of their legal fees. The rest goes to Shunnarah. He himself has probably not seen the inside of a courtroom in a long time. He has a deal with Lamar that says he gets any vacant billboard in Alabama. He’s basically their placeholder for any sign that isn’t rented, and he pays them 7 figures a year for that right.
Posted by PhilemonThomas
Member since Jan 2015
2942 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 8:54 am to
By Breaking Bad Saul Goodman’s main line of work was being a legit criminal. Money laundering, schemes to hide illegal activities, connecting criminals, basically a consultant for criminals. Other than that he did criminal defense mostly which was mostly a front.

Most of the Amberlamps Chasers in Louisiana don’t need to do that kind of shite.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 8:57 am to
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Even the shite lawyers are charging $200+ an hour. They bill 2 hours a day and you can easily afford a crappy office and secretary.


$400 per day ain’t getting nobody an office and a secretary.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:00 am to
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Takes too many cases from friends and family where he knows he will never get paid.



You rarely regret turning a case down. You will frequently wish you had not taken cases with red flags.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:22 am to
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400 per day ain’t getting nobody an office and a secretary.


It can be done. You can get an office in one of those shared staff places (like Regis) for under a grand a month. You’ve got a receptionist, office, Internet, phone, copier and office space. The “legal secretary” is a dying need. I know lawyers who have done it.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27062 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:30 am to
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The “legal secretary” is a dying need.


Decades ago, when the average attorney couldn't type, etc, they were more useful. There just isn't enough phone call/filing work to be done in a day to justify a secretary for a solo practitioner who doesn't need someone to make their hands bleed listening to their dictaphone. I imagine that's why there has been a move to a single secretary working for multiple independent attorneys.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:38 am to
i was in a local CLE yesterday and my friend was talking about the solo (as in SOLO) firm. i've been doing that since 2012

this year was the first year i hired some contract labor. just help answering phones, some basic running, database entry, etc.

it's 100% do-able to bill $400/day and make out like a bandit if you know how to keep costs low. if you bill 2 hours/day and work 200 days that's $80k gross. you can easily get expenses down to $1k/month in most places so that's $12k. $68k in income for very low stress/work is nothing to sneeze at

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I imagine that's why there has been a move to a single secretary working for multiple independent attorneys.


most of the really good paralegals i know float and bill hourly
This post was edited on 12/8/18 at 9:39 am
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:46 am to
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basic running,
.

Courthouse runners or case runners? ;)

Glad to hear it is working. I think I might give it a try when I slow down some day.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27062 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:50 am to
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it's 100% do-able to bill $400/day and make out like a bandit if you know how to keep costs low.


I know quite a few attorneys who will brag about their gross yet can barely pay the lease on their car. Far too many of those middle of the road guys are going broke trying to keep up with what their perception of the practice of law should be.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422394 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:52 am to
courthouse

don't get the ODC up my arse bro
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