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re: Do kids that are held back in elementary/middle become successes later in life?

Posted on 10/31/16 at 6:13 am to
Posted by Iron Lion
Romulus
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 6:13 am to
I feel you and I totally understand. I work in a plant myself and mostly wirked construction before that. I 100% believe that I allowed my stutter to hold me back from doing better. I let it be stronger than I was. It's disappointing.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 6:29 am to
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I've stuttered all my life. It sucks but it is what it is. My oldest son stutters also and he's pretty successful for a 22 year old. Things only hold you down if you let them.


Yup, same here. I'm 26-years-old and stuttered terribly when I was younger. Almost couldn't complete sentences. I wasn't held back, but I improved the stuttering over speech classes, but still stutter every day here in the present. It isn't near as much overall, but sometimes I will have to completely stop talking to regain my composure or just will be forced to say another word entirely which can cause some awkward moments haha.

I'm on radio shows and have interviewed hundreds of sports coaches. Every time I go back and listen to my interview recordings I always think I sound so damn dumb


One positive, I have never met a girl who hasn't liked my stutter. They love it for some reason.
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 6:31 am
Posted by ElJefe686
Houston
Member since Nov 2012
892 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 6:36 am to
As an administrator in education for the past five years, I can tell you that we've had many success stories with holding boys back. They mature a little slower and often benefit from the extra year of growth.

Then think - down the road they'll drive and do everything else a year before their peers. That will be a social benefit later, not a hindrance.
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
22013 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 6:53 am to
My 4th son repeated K5 solely based on his birthday being in late August. Worked out great for him. There was one kid who asked him if he was stupid because of it and that ended with a left hook/arse whipping for the smart arse.

I was not held back and was a senior in HS at 16 and in college at 17. I could have used the extra year Maybe for sports???

Now, those guys who "failed" a grade, maybe your pint is a good one in most cases. One friend of mine had failed a grade and he had a successful job/life experience as far as earnings.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18309 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 6:55 am to
My 4 year old was born end of September, he might have to stay behind due to his birthday but we will probably do it anyway so he won't be the youngest in his class.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 6:56 am to
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There was one kid who asked him if he was stupid because of it and that ended with a left hook/arse whipping for the smart arse.


Your son is riled up rather quickly for a smart person...
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
16061 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 6:58 am to
Held our son back in 1st grade. Drove us batty in high school, farted around. Currently defending our way of life, as a civilian, half way around the globe.

Very bright, awful student. Believe conventional approach to schooling was a factor, albeit nominal. He preferred to play. Completing his degree, now. Fine young man.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 7:01 am to
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that ended with a left hook/arse whipping for the smart arse.


I'm guessing there is a little embellishment in this. lol
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 7:02 am
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
49197 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 7:02 am to
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accidentally sipped some gas thinking it was sprite 


How does one accidentally sip some gas? Why would it be in a cup to even be able to confuse with sprite? Wouldn't you be able to smell that shite before you even put it to your mouth?

So many questions, so little time.
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
16272 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 7:04 am to
Honestly, the only 2 kids that I know for a fact were held back for academic reasons (I was the youngest kid in my kindergarten class, and was held back along with almost every other boy because we were "too immature", according to our teacher. No shite, we were in kindergarten.) came from really shitty households were they received little to no support from their parents. That is more of an indicator, in my opinion. The majority of learning is still done at home. When you have a parent who cannot/will not supplement a child's learning process, then they are at a major disadvantage.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7443 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 7:18 am to
Statistically, 4 out 5 students who are retained will drop out of high school. The only demographic where it shows to be effective is white males, 2nd grade or earlier.
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
28167 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 7:44 am to
The ones who start kindergarten late are the ones that have better success IMO.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
14456 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 7:53 am to
I was held back by parents in 2nd grade instead of summer school.
They also had me evaluated. Turns out that I was bored with slow pace.
My new teacher designed more challenging and interesting work for me.
Best thing that could happen for me. I only looked back to remember a great teacher and wonderful person. I wish I could thank her again.
Posted by redbullwings
Member since Aug 2013
874 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 7:55 am to
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by the time I was in forth grade I was back with my normal class

Posted by JW6
Member since Jul 2013
1736 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 7:56 am to
Extra year of sports. Hell yea hold them back.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:15 am to
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As an administrator in education for the past five years, I can tell you that we've had many success stories with holding boys back. They mature a little slower and often benefit from the extra year of growth.
Unless we are talking about something like Kindergarten students (right around the age cutoff) or excessive absences, then retention has negative effects across academic, social, and behavioral outcomes, expecially distal outcomes that aren't experienced by the retaining teacher/school/administration.

Of course there are exceptions to the rule, but it's ineffective in most cases, and costly for the taxpayer (if public).
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 8:17 am
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5422 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:17 am to
I was held back in Kindergarten (August birthday) and I am now a teacher. So according to this board I am a giant failure.
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 8:18 am
Posted by go_tigres
Member since Sep 2013
5494 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:29 am to
I was held back in 5th grade....girls took 100% of my focus. I learned quickly mama don't f around. Seeing all my friends in 6th grade was pretty solid fodder to light the flame under my arse.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17832 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:41 am to
The kids that are held back usually end up being the better athletes and bullies due to being a year older than everyone else.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37463 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:53 am to
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Do kids that are held back in elementary/middle become successes later in life?


I would assume that a large portion of children are held back due to a learning disability, which can hinder success later in life.
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