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Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:14 pm to
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The truth is it's 2 parent households. Go check out the single motherhood rates and each race and you'll find the higher rate of single motherhood the worse the outcomes are.
There are many similar correlations, that's what I've been saying. So did all the single mothers cause the crime, or did all the crime cause the single mothers? Or does poverty cause all of it? Or is it just the black people causing all of it?
Posted by Logician
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Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:15 pm to
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WHY do you think it's skin color?

WHY do you lie about what i think it is?

^^look above for 3 examples from me addressing, specifically, how it is NOT skin color and NOT poverty.
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 1:19 pm
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:17 pm to
Asian 84% 2 parent households
White 77%
Latino 66%
Black 37%

The single mothers and lack of fathers caused it all. All races have poverty in certain populations. Only one race has crazy low 2 parent household rates. I have many well off black friends and every single one of them has kids by several different women. I give them hell about it too and they laugh it off but know I 'm right.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:18 pm to
What Am I looking at? Where are the dots?
Posted by Logician
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:19 pm to
the image probably isn't showing up for you

korkstand works in IT. he can help you.
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:22 pm to
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why doesn't west virginia's murder rate rival that of chicago's
WV doesn't have a single city over 50k population, and there are more people in Chicago than the entire state of WV. Extremely strong correlation between crime and population density.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:29 pm to
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if possible, please specifically address why in the 2nd pic dirt poor college kids 18-25 aren't murdering each other


If they're in college they're neither poor nor caught in the negative cycles previously discussed. Have you been paying attention at all?
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why in the 3rd pic a low income and highly dense black population "only" has one murder compared to a very similar population and density in north BR.
That's the "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" folks. That's about the proportion I would expect to be able to escape the environment in north BR.


I think your username is highly misleading.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:31 pm to
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Why are you continuously avoiding answering the statistics that were pointed out earlier about who commits the vast majority of violent crime in the United States?
I did address it, and I've addressed the same exact topic on numerous occasions on this board. Those threads tend to attract the type of people you might expect, and it's pointless to talk to people who have their minds made up that black people bad.
Posted by Logician
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:34 pm to
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But now you'll have to convince me that "culture" is more closely tied to skin color than it is to socioeconomic status.
funny how the onus is on everyone else to convince you, but you can't be bothered posting any fact, data, link or anything except your opinions and laughing emojis.
Posted by Logician
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:37 pm to
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WV doesn't have a single city over 50k population, and there are more people in Chicago than the entire state of WV. Extremely strong correlation between crime and population density.
there's an easy way to compare differences in population sizes. it's called "per capita".

why aren't they similar per capita?
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:39 pm to
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Why are you continuously avoiding answering the statistics that were pointed out earlier about who commits the vast majority of violent crime in the United States?

I'm not even suggesting that all poor black people are criminals. I know that's not the case. But there is a subculture that exists that celebrates things like having children out of wedlock, gang violence, murder, drug dealing etc.

This subculture is responsible for an outsized portion of violence in the US and the vast majority of violent crime in BR.

It's far more complicated than just pointing to poverty. Kentucky is the 4th poorest state in the country but they aren't anywhere close to having the highest murder rates.
Posted by Logician
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Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:41 pm to
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If they're in college they're neither poor nor caught in the negative cycles previously discussed.
poor kids can get tops, scholarships, etc. very silly argument.

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That's about the proportion I would expect
"i would expect"..."i think"...never any facts. always opinion. nothing to back anything you say up.

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I think your username is highly misleading.

i bet you do. i deal in facts and information. you wouldn't understand responding with anything but feelings and laughing emojis like a queer.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29000 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:42 pm to
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WHY do you lie about what i think it is?


You took the time to make a map of murders overlaid on racial dots.
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^^look above for 3 examples from me addressing, specifically, how it is NOT skin color and NOT poverty.
Like the one where you think college kids are poor? You seem to be a moron. They have room and board, they're fed, their time is mostly occupied, and they are in an environment specifically designed to better themselves. Literally everything about college deters crime. It's also expensive, so there are few truly poor people there, and those few are not surrounded by other poor people and bad influences.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:42 pm to
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^^look above for 3 examples from me addressing, specifically, how it is NOT skin color and NOT poverty.



Korkie is a racist that thinks thug culture = black culture when in reality thug culture is a (size) minority culture within the black culture just as trailer park culture is a (size) minority culture within the white culture.

He is then using his improper understanding to paint you as a racist despite you knowing and articulating that it isn’t black culture that is the problem, but the sub culture that is thug culture.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:43 pm to
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Extremely strong correlation between crime and population density.


in the united states, there's a strong correlation between population density and black people
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29000 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:44 pm to
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funny how the onus is on everyone else to convince you
Yeah bro that's how the world works. You begged me to convince you as well.

Again, your username is highly misleading.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29000 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:48 pm to
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there's an easy way to compare differences in population sizes. it's called "per capita".

why aren't they similar per capita?
Do you really need this spelled out for you? A state of a million people will have less crime than a city of a million people, every single time. Per capita rates do not account for population density. More people in a smaller area means more interactions. It's a really simple concept.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29000 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:58 pm to
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poor kids can get tops, scholarships, etc. very silly argument.
It's silly if you're completely oblivious to the reality of being poor in a poor neighborhood.
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"i would expect"..."i think"...never any facts. always opinion. nothing to back anything you say up.
Your murder/income map did quite a fine job of that for me.
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i deal in facts and information.
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you wouldn't understand responding with anything but feelings and laughing emojis like a queer.


What else is there to do but laugh at this point? You laid out an argument that black people commit murder, and then when it's shown that poor people commit murder you ignore it and then I'm the racist. Now you're calling me queer so I guess I'm the bigot?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29000 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:59 pm to
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Korkie is a racist that thinks thug culture = black culture when in reality thug culture is a (size) minority culture within the black culture just as trailer park culture is a (size) minority culture within the white culture.

He is then using his improper understanding to paint you as a racist despite you knowing and articulating that it isn’t black culture that is the problem, but the sub culture that is thug culture.
Did I miss the thug dotmap? That sounds like it would be really handy.
Posted by Logician
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 2:01 pm to
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it's pointless
it's pointless so here i am on page 10 still going


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people who have their minds made up that black people bad.


"look at all these idiots coming to conclusions after objectively looking at facts and statistics. what a bunch of racists! i'm better than them. i "believe" things are true, but i don't know why. i'm a man of science! i can't explain myself, and i have no proof to give. but i know i'm right because it's how i feel! everyone keeps telling me they think it's culture and not skin color, but i'll keep repeating that they hate all black people because i don't want to waste my time with racists!"

absolute clown.
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