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re: Did you know an aircraft carrier can power a city? Why don't they use them in texas?

Posted on 2/17/21 at 3:50 pm to
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
37877 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 3:50 pm to
You mean they aren't going to sail the Carl Vinson straight up the Brazos and plug it directly into the power grid?
Posted by drdoct
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2015
1609 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

Former navy nuclear operator.

1) A lot of the power is used to power the plant itself.

2) You need enough cabling and tie ins to make it work. Shore to ship power can only handle the minimum load to run the ship with the reactors shut down. Thus, you can’t export a 100% reactor power or remotely close (closer to 1%....maybe).

3) Raw MW goes mostly to steam production for the engines and catapults. So full reactor power can’t go toward electricity anyway. Without piping up extra turbines somehow.


What he said.

My old carrier is in Texas but it was conventional and now being broken into razor blades.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
15869 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 4:08 pm to
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quote:
Power from new natural-gas-fired plants is also far cheaper than nuclear at $61 to $87 per megawatt-hour


That price is for now. Not after PedoJoe wrecks the fracking industry.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 4:24 pm to
Because by the time they run the extension cord from the Indian Ocean or the South China Sea, the freeze will be over.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37691 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 4:27 pm to
You really don't have an understanding of electrical power and how it works, do you Bobby?
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
21752 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 4:30 pm to
Run the Abraham Lincoln up the Brazos. We need power in Granbury.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12020 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 4:36 pm to
Subs can power a lot too.

We should just build more nuclear plants... would be way cheaper than using aircraft carriers with the built in .gov waste. Hell, maybe they can build floating nuclear plants that can be moved when storms are coming?
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17182 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 4:37 pm to
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Pretty amazing too, that people are willing to suffer through shite like what's going on in Texas rather than address this from a logical standpoint.



IMO there's a good case for solar and wind power. But not for base load generation. Basic demands have to be met with reliable power, and that's going to be by a variety of Nuclear, Natural Gas, or Coal plants.

I'd rather do hydroelectric than have giant wind farms.
This post was edited on 2/17/21 at 4:38 pm
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8201 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 4:48 pm to
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Former navy nuclear operator.

Are the reactors on a carrier or nuke sub to expensive to build and maintain for civilian use?
They aren't huge, generate a fair amount of juice, and aren't enclosed in a concrete pill.
Posted by BondJamesBond
Too Far from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2011
407 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 5:00 pm to
You will need an icebreaker to lead an aircraft carrier up the Brazos today.
Posted by Nephropidae
Brentwood
Member since Nov 2018
2603 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 5:00 pm to
quote:

Former navy nuclear operator.

1) A lot of the power is used to power the plant itself.

2) You need enough cabling and tie ins to make it work. Shore to ship power can only handle the minimum load to run the ship with the reactors shut down. Thus, you can’t export a 100% reactor power or remotely close (closer to 1%....maybe).

3) Raw MW goes mostly to steam production for the engines and catapults. So full reactor power can’t go toward electricity anyway. Without piping up extra turbines somehow.


I mean, you don't have to go and get all smart and clear about his idea.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
41006 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 5:06 pm to
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How does that compare to wind and solar?


quote:

That is far above the unsubsidized costs of utility-scale solar power ($72 to $86 per megawatt-hour) and onshore wind ($37 to $81 per megawatt-hour).


In a deregulated market, private companies are not willing to invest in nuclear that takes a long, long time to pay for itself.
Posted by wheelr
Banned
Member since Jul 2012
5800 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 5:12 pm to
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4) There ain't no aircraft carriers sitting inland Tejas just doing nothing.



Guy has a nuclear sub buried in his front yard here. You can see his ladder against it.

He also has a pirate ship but I don't think it would be a good power source.
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 5:16 pm to
Because aircraft carriers are used for forward projection of military might. How the frick do you project strength overseas with a carrier docked up the Houston ship channel?
Posted by Box Geauxrilla
Member since Jun 2013
19174 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 5:18 pm to
I’m just wondering why you are citing WordPress as a source
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
36436 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 5:21 pm to
We have regulated nuclear energy to over $10k per kw to produce
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 5:27 pm to
I think solar and wind make limited situational sense. Like a remote area, disconnected from the grid.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
18914 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 5:57 pm to
Jesus I can’t even
Posted by Drone
Mandeville
Member since Oct 2012
143 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 6:01 pm to
The stupid is done people is really hard to grasp sometimes...
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14787 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 7:48 pm to
You mean there ain't one just moored in Lake Travis?
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