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Did the human error Buzz Aldrin committed during Apollo 11 prevent him from flying again?

Posted on 7/27/22 at 4:46 pm
Posted by euphemus
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 4:46 pm
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Armstrong politely didn't mention the "human error" was Buzz Aldrin. Aldrin later admitted leaving the tracking radar on. He was scared they may not be able to find Mike Collins after they left the moon, so at the last minute, he decided to leave the radar unit on, instead of follow procedure. He didn't know the computer didn't have the capacity to track the moon and Collins at the same time. Amazing that Aldrin did this... If they had aborted the mission because of the alarms, you would have to speculate that Aldrin would have never flown again. Come to think about it, he didn't.

The Real Story Behind the Apollo 11 Computer Error | WSJ
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 4:50 pm to
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Did the human error Buzz Aldrin committed during Apollo 11 prevent him from flying again?


possibly, back then they didnt have any patience for guys who dont follow procedure by the book without fail.

im sure it was a black mark on his record but most likely not something that would be spoken about or known beyond the head decision makers
Posted by Tigers0891
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Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 4:52 pm to
Considering most of the people that built the rocket and ship and everything else probably couldn't boil themselves an egg, I'll give the man a pass.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 4:53 pm to
This seems a stretch to draw such a conclusion from the fact that Aldrin never flew again, considering Armstrong and Collins never flew again either.
Posted by NOLAVOL16
Member since Jan 2022
873 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 4:53 pm to
Neither did Armstrong or Collins. How do you top being on Apollo 11? The only moon lander I can think of who had a long astronaut career afterwards is John Young.
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:00 pm to
Come on man. Kubrick writes better copy than this.
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:07 pm to
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This seems a stretch to draw such a conclusion from the fact that Aldrin never flew again, considering Armstrong and Collins never flew again either.


Yeah, none of them were going to fly again. NASA was not going to risk losing anyone who was on the first moon mission.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:09 pm to
You actually believe Buzz Aldrin is a human?
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30055 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:16 pm to
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This seems a stretch to draw such a conclusion


im not drawing any conclusion, thats the OP

i just mentioned that based on his premise, that its possible

i think astronauts trained so much they most like only have a short window to be ready and once you go, its next man in line goes next
Posted by EA6B
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:55 pm to
The mathematics that made orbital rendezvous possible were developed by Aldrin, and were the subject of his Doctoral Dissertation at MIT several years before he was a astronaut, and played a large part in him being selected as a astronaut. There was probably no one else in the NASA scientific community at the time that understood the challenge of orbital rendezvous better than Aldrin. That knowledge probably influenced his decision to leave the radar on.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:56 pm to
Most of the guys that went to the moon didn’t fly again because what were you going to do to top that.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:57 pm to
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possibly, back then they didnt have any patience for guys who dont follow procedure by the book without fail.


As I previously posted, Aldrin literally wrote the book on orbital rendezvous, I have a copy of his work.
Posted by VeniVidiVici
Gaul
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:09 pm to
Never happened

—Liberator and Gaggle
Posted by Palmetto98
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Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:11 pm to
He couldn’t fake it again obviously
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:16 pm to
If true it would be just as much of a failure of the people who were training Aldrin. Seems like an important thing to discuss.
Posted by biohzrd
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:19 pm to
Maybe it was that they had just accomplished something that seemed impossible to begin with, and he didn’t want to leave anyone behind.
Posted by LoneStar23
USA
Member since Aug 2019
5181 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:20 pm to
The recording studio cut his contract
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:33 pm to
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Armstrong politely didn't mention the "human error" was Buzz Aldrin. Aldrin later admitted leaving the tracking radar on. He was scared they may not be able to find Mike Collins after they left the moon, so at the last minute, he decided to leave the radar unit on, instead of follow procedure. He didn't know the computer didn't have the capacity to track the moon and Collins at the same time. Amazing that Aldrin did this... If they had aborted the mission because of the alarms, you would have to speculate that Aldrin would have never flown again. Come to think about it, he didn't.



Where is this quote from?

I searched for it and only this thread came up on Google.

And it's not in that video.

eta: Nevermind, it's just a random comment on the youtube video
This post was edited on 7/27/22 at 6:37 pm
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:36 pm to
I thought you were calling Buzz “The Human Error”. It’s a great insult, actually.
Posted by RockinDood
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:41 pm to
quote:

The mathematics that made orbital rendezvous possible were developed by Aldrin, and were the subject of his Doctoral Dissertation at MIT several years before he was a astronaut, and played a large part in him being selected as a astronaut. There was probably no one else in the NASA scientific community at the time that understood the challenge of orbital rendezvous better than Aldrin. That knowledge probably influenced his decision to leave the radar on.


I’m not sure you’re right about this.
I saw a movie about how most of the old white men at nasa were a bunch of backwoods morons and it was actually black women that got us to the moon in between potty breaks.
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