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re: Derrick Todd Lee...What was it like around Baton Rouge at that time?

Posted on 6/27/25 at 12:52 pm to
Posted by pelicanpride
Houston
Member since Oct 2007
1661 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 12:52 pm to
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He would stalk them and then he would pretend to be lost or working in the neighborhood. He would go to the door and ask them to use their phone. Then he would attack them.


That’s wild to think they just let him in. I guarantee you their intuition told them that it was a bad idea to let him come inside, but they didn’t want to seem rude. Women, especially young women, have to know that their own safety should always come above the feelings of some random guy they don’t know. 99% of men can kill 99% of women with their bare hands. When it comes to your safety, ladies, don’t worry about his feelings.
Posted by ExtraGravy
Member since Nov 2018
965 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 12:57 pm to
I met a guy who had been dating one of the victims. Although they were not really serious at the time her death obviously him up pretty bad, as you would expect. Also he got absolutely roasted by the cops, even though he had a completely solid alibi (out of town, neutral witnesses placed him where he said he was) and tried to help them all he could. He was a bit understanding about the cops grilling him, but still.
Posted by Ranger Call
Lonesome Dove / Montana
Member since Apr 2023
674 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 1:50 pm to
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That’s wild to think they just let him in. I guarantee you their intuition told them that it was a bad idea to let him come inside, but they didn’t want to seem rude. Women, especially young women, have to know that their own safety should always come above the feelings of some random guy they don’t know. 99% of men can kill 99% of women with their bare hands. When it comes to your safety, ladies, don’t worry about his feelings.


I would recommend to any woman living alone, aside from owning a handgun, knives, machetes, daggers, etc., have a very capable guard dog living with them as well. And never, under any circumstances, answer or open the doors for strangers if home alone. There is real evil in this world, and rarely does real evil pick on or target anyone perceived as a threat.
Posted by Jenious
Member since Apr 2020
879 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 2:23 pm to
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Women, especially young women, have to know that their own safety should always come above the feelings of some random guy they don’t know.


One of my good friends, and wouldn't hurt a fly, was leaving a festival in Lafayette and was walking to his car when a girl about a few hundred feet in front of him turned around and screamed "QUIT FOLLOWING MEEEEEEEE". Scared the shite out of my friend.
Posted by pelicanpride
Houston
Member since Oct 2007
1661 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:22 pm to
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when a girl about a few hundred feet in front of him turned around and screamed "QUIT FOLLOWING MEEEEEEEE".


LOL - I’ve never done that to a guy, but when I was younger, I wouldn’t hesitate to be brutally honest with some guys. “I’m not getting in a car with you. I just met you 3 minutes ago.” Most guys seemed to get it, but some would get very agitated like I was accusing them of something. I always assumed those guys didn’t have sisters. Regardless, my logic was that it was worth an uncomfortable 10 second conversation to avoid a situation where, at best, I’m very uneasy about my personal safety or, at worst, I get hacked up and stuffed in some weirdos freezer. I’ll take the awkward 10 second conversation.
Posted by moon
USA
Member since Dec 2010
2596 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:12 pm to
You should take a look at this timeline. It shows just how inept our law enforcement system and judicial system is. People even went to the Police telling them that DTL had told them that he had killed someone and they just brushed it off. The data doesn't lie. Look how many 2nd and 3rd chances they gave this monster. Pathetic!

DTL Timeline
Posted by GetMeOutOfHere
Member since Aug 2018
998 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:25 pm to
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You should take a look at this timeline. It shows just how inept our law enforcement system and judicial system is. People even went to the Police telling them that DTL had told them that he had killed someone and they just brushed it off. The data doesn't lie. Look how many 2nd and 3rd chances they gave this monster. Pathetic!


I forgot where I read it, but I remember either an FBI agent or one of the Atlanta cops that were involved in catching him saying he had never seen incompetence like what he saw in Baton Rouge.
Posted by NewMoneyTrash
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2015
1550 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 7:48 pm to
Definitely a time in BR to remember. I always thought it was interesting that forced entry was not a factor with Green and Pace, even though he clearly had them on edge days before.


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"She had made mentioned to both me and her mother the preceding week of an uneasy feeling that she thought someone was watching her." The alarm sounded on stanford avenue at 3:47 AM on the morning of the 23rd, startling GIna out of her sleep. Todd, cloaked in darkness, watched from a distance, upset the alarm had foiled his plans. She assured the security company it was a false alarm. And although police say Gina's alarm was not activated at the time she was attacked (24th) , Mark says Gina was always extremely careful. "Almost to the point of being paranoid about turning her alarm on. Excessive, compulsive I would almost say," said Mark.

Mark says Gina also had pepper spray in nearly all the windows.

Family members believe Lee was at Murray’s house the day before he killed her.

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“She was on the phone with a friend, Stephanie Land,” Pace said. “Murray stopped the conversation once and said, ‘Can I help you? No, I don’t know that person. I know the people who lived here before me and that’s not a name I recall.’ She started talking to Stephanie again and Murray said suddenly, ‘Is there anything else?’ Then she turned back to Stephanie and said, ‘Wow, weird.’

“She told her dad about it the next morning, too. She said that the guy ‘gave me a creepy feeling.’ ”



Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87067 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 8:41 pm to
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I forgot where I read it, but I remember either an FBI agent or one of the Atlanta cops that were involved in catching him saying he had never seen incompetence like what he saw in Baton Rouge.


The FBI had little reason to comment on anyone else’s incompetence. Their profilers were as convinced it was a white guy as everyone else.
This post was edited on 6/28/25 at 8:41 pm
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140692 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 8:55 pm to
Isn’t it now suspected that there were two killers working the area? I remember being in the Bay and when they released the name and photo it was wild
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4542 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 9:08 pm to
Incompetent. This monster shouldn’t have even been on the street. He’s the epitome of someone who need to be behind bars early on.
Posted by sharkfhin
Water
Member since Sep 2008
4698 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 9:12 pm to
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it now suspected that there were two killers working the area? I remember being in the Bay and when they released the name and photo it was wild
My sister's husband said there were at least 3 active SKs in the BR area and thought to be as many as 5 around that time as far east as New Orleans also. There were several women murdered with similiar situations that their attackers were never caught.
This post was edited on 6/28/25 at 9:14 pm
Posted by Locoguan0
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2017
6844 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 9:25 pm to
My mom saw DTL every day while he was working construction. He stopped by where she was working cashier to buy coffee and lunch.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9300 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 9:38 pm to
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I always thought it was interesting that forced entry was not a factor with Green and Pace, even though he clearly had them on edge days before.


Because that was the one time period when white women were concerned about white men more than black men which was due to errors by the police and FBI. I always thought most ended up relaxing when they saw it was not a white male which DTL took advantage of to push them back into the house or apartment quickly.

This post was edited on 6/28/25 at 9:38 pm
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
39740 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 11:04 pm to
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Cops were swabbing the cheeks every white male in a white pickup truck.


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And swabbing white males accused of being potential suspects based solely on anonymous call in tips.


I never heard about any of that.

Was there at least a class action lawsuit against the police? Their pension fund should have been drained completely to settle lawsuits.

That is fricking insane.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9300 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 11:06 pm to
These tactics keep bringing to mind a weird issue I had once while visiting home during this time period. I had a black male knock on front door one late afternoon in College Town asking some crap about looking for some person as he was supposed to deliver/drop off or pick up something. I had lived there for several years before moving, visited often back then after moving away, and had never heard of who or what he was supposedly looking for in the neighborhood or in regards to our old house including previous owner or direct neighbors back then. From the moment I opened the door the whole situation with this guy seemed off. What he was saying and attempting to portray about his situation didn’t match what I was observing with him.

He also acted like I wasn’t what he expected as only 2 female family members with a terrier lived there at the time (the dog mostly stayed in back half of house until going upstairs at night), and he got overly chatty. It both felt like he was trying to get some information about my presence there and nervous that maybe he realized he looked suspicious and could tell that I didn’t really trust him or his alleged reason for knocking on our door.

There was also no vehicle in sight in front or driveway and was allegedly parked on side street, but that would have also meant that he passed up multiple houses to make a weird mistake about looking for someone there or nearby in neighborhood.

I wasn’t concerned that he was the serial killer as everything stated at the time was the killer was white including the truck deal. I was very concerned in immediate sense that he was wanting to bust in to rob or maybe casing place for that night for multiple reasons thinking only 2 females lived there before I opened door. I thought he was evaluating situation while we talked as he seemed to also be trying to also pay attention to things going on behind me in the house that his chattiness couldn’t mask. He never showed much interest getting back to finding the place he was allegedly looking for when he knocked on the door.

Didn’t see him or anyone that looked similar around that part of neighborhood again that entire week. I also didn’t see him or anything similar during subsequent visits to neighborhood during this period, so I started to forget some details about him and the level of concerns that I had about him and the situation over the year or two that passed before DTL was eventually caught.

After not thinking about the guy or situation for awhile the moment I saw pictures of DTL after his arrest I immediately thought that he looked like the guy who knocked on the door in College Town that day.

For most part I have brushed it off as a what if or could have been us situation that I pushed into my head at the time, but it has never really left as each time I hear someone talk about DTL the possibility immediately pops back up in my mind.

This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 12:39 am
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
39740 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 11:39 pm to
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"Not the Killer" decals replaced nuts as the accessory of choice for baws driving white trucks.


Thankfully, I had totaled my white truck a few months before that detail came out.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
39740 posts
Posted on 6/28/25 at 11:49 pm to
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She went to the police but the statute of limitations on the attack had expired so they couldn't arrest him for it.


Statute of limitations on attempted homicide?
Posted by 9rocket
Member since Sep 2020
1619 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 12:55 am to
Well, they did promise everyone would get their DNA back if it turned out they weren’t the killer, and they would only use it to try to identify the killer.
Posted by GeauxTime9
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2010
6832 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 7:12 am to
Just finished watching the A&E documentary Butchers of the Bayou which covers DTL and SVG.

Couple things stood out to me.

1. In the years that DTL and SVG were operating there were over 60 women missing and/or murdered. DTL and SVG only accounted for 6-8 per, that leaves 40+ murders or missing people reports never solved for that time period.

2. SVG had a girl friend that lived with him the entire period he as killing women. How does she not have some sort of clue? He was dismembering them in their own home. Oh and she still lives there today…


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