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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:56 am to
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177670 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:56 am to
Prosecution has been a clown show so no surprise they're pulling this
Posted by BrewDrees95
Member since Jan 2021
474 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:57 am to
This team of prosecutors have been completely outclassed by Nelson, put on a horrific case that leaves enormous doubt, and now tries to side door some BS evidence on late notice. What a disgrace
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2654 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:58 am to
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they're going to likely present testimony that the carbon monoxide levels was due to environmental factors

It's a chief ingredient in the synthesis of fentanyl.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23024 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:59 am to
I'm not well versed on criminal trials but to me this ruling seems absolutely ridiculous.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 10:00 am
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140890 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:59 am to
Ellison has screwed this thing up from the beginning. I always have contended this is a dog and pony show. If he was serious they would have let the Feds handle this as a Civil Rights case.

Maybe I am wrong. But we all knew Chauvin was going to walk once the facts came out.
Posted by wileyjones
Member since May 2014
2720 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:59 am to
This is setup for a mistrial

Board up the shops
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12702 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:00 am to
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Posted by LRTiger
Little Rock, AR
Member since Nov 2007
284 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:00 am to
I think with this prosecution lawyer asking the questions, there is now a 50/50 shot at a mistrial.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478715 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:01 am to
i'm curious what happens if this prosecutor completely fricks up and the doctor does testify to stuff that creates a mistrial. it will be borderline intentional at that point.
Posted by Buddy Red
Maringouin, LA
Member since Aug 2007
282 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:02 am to
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They rested their case already. Is there precedence for reopening? If there isn't , tough shite for them.


Its allowed, BUT ONLY as to rebut evidence presented by Defense. NOT allowed to advance new theories.

State back on at 1015..... and that prosecutor should be absolutely be walking on eggshells at the podium as judge made it clear that State is flirting with a mistrial .
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85358 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:02 am to
What happens if the defense attorney tricks Tobin into saying something about test results?

I’d imagine held in contempt, but mistrial also?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177670 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:02 am to
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This is setup for a mistrial

Board up the shops

Prosecution is doing this on purpose for a do over since they know they got worked?
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140890 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:03 am to
If the prosecution deliberately causes a mistrial isn't that somewhat circumventing double jeopardy?

Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
7172 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:03 am to
Not sure why he is asking questions at all. It is ridiculous to me that Chauvin can get possibly two or three not guilty from the jurors and its a hung jury and they can retry him. With chances to fix their own frick ups.
Posted by bikerack
NH
Member since Sep 2011
2566 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:04 am to
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What happens if the defense attorney tricks Tobin into saying something about test results?

I’d imagine held in contempt, but mistrial also?


I believe that is what is called "opening the door" and then at that point all bets are off. The State could then ask them.
Posted by Sherman Klump
Wellman College
Member since Jul 2011
4571 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:05 am to
This is a clown show. I'm confused why they are allowed to call this witness again? Admittedly, I don't know enough about the legal process but can the defense just call another witness to rebut the prosecutions testimony?

HLN Misty Marris expert: "Defense rest, Nelson decides to stop the bleeding"
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 10:09 am
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35440 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:08 am to
Court TV host just said Chauvin looks like Hannibal Lector

Unreal
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:10 am to
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Defense brought up carbo monoxide level tests

Prosecution's witness, on his own, got rebuttal evidence via new tests (i think)

State wanted to call him as a rebuttal witness to discuss these new results

judge said state had notice of issue and could have presented these issues previously and rebuttal evidence about new tests would cause a mistrial


So thats a good thing for the defense right?
Posted by Sherman Klump
Wellman College
Member since Jul 2011
4571 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:11 am to
Yes but bad news that they get to call their best witness again.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:12 am to
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i'm curious what happens if this prosecutor completely fricks up and the doctor does testify to stuff that creates a mistrial. it will be borderline intentional at that point.



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