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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:41 am to
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:41 am to
He will argue mistrial if allowed
Posted by mr bojangles
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:44 am to
Nelson stated that if Tobin's report and new testing, which he argues was a State oversight, is grounds for a mistrial and he would move for the same if the Judge rules it admissible.
Posted by Sherman Klump
Wellman College
Member since Jul 2011
4571 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:45 am to
This seems very calculated from the prosecution as stated by Nelson. To get their best witness back in front the jury one last time.

ETA: if he goes for mistrial if this is allowed, who makes that decision? how does the court arrive at that?
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 9:47 am
Posted by TitleistProV1X
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:47 am to
quote:

This seems very calculated from the prosecution as stated by Nelson. To get their best witness back in front the jury one last time.

Bingo!
Posted by Sherman Klump
Wellman College
Member since Jul 2011
4571 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:47 am to
They don't want to call the cardiologist to discuss the heart, but the pulmonologist. This is amazing and disgusting.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23024 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:48 am to
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I  think he may be leaning to the side of exclusion, based on his comments so far, but we will see how strong he is.

The Judge has yet, that I've seen, side with one of the Defense's motions. I will be shocked if he doesn't allow Toobin to come back.
Posted by BrewDrees95
Member since Jan 2021
474 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:49 am to
This is bordering of a deprivation of rights of Chauvin. Silly games by the state at thet 11th hour. What a farce
Posted by wileyjones
Member since May 2014
2720 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:51 am to
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They don't want to call the cardiologist to discuss the heart, but the pulmonologist. This is amazing and disgusting
the judge caught it too
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:51 am to
So if they get a mistrial declared they will have to retry the charges, but will they use same prosecutors?
Posted by September 1948
Member since Jun 2018
2133 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:51 am to
The prosecution must feel like their case is weak as it sits if they are attempting to throw more spaghetti and see if even one strand sticks.

They rested their case already. Is there precedence for reopening? If there isn't , tough shite for them.

edited for spelling
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 9:55 am
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15952 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:51 am to
Dr. Torbin is out testifying about lab reports.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 9:53 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:52 am to
quote:

So if they get a mistrial declared they will have to retry the charges, but will they use same prosecutors?

likely not
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
478715 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:52 am to
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Dr. Torbin is out.

wrong

he's in, but can't talk about new test results or it's a mistrial.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:52 am to
I missed it..whats going on?
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23024 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:53 am to
Of course he is going to allow the pulmonologist to talk about the enlarged heart issue. Ridiculous
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478715 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:54 am to
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I missed it..whats going on?

Defense brought up carbo monoxide level tests

Prosecution's witness, on his own, got rebuttal evidence via new tests (i think)

State wanted to call him as a rebuttal witness to discuss these new results

judge said state had notice of issue and could have presented these issues previously and rebuttal evidence about new tests would cause a mistrial
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:54 am to
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he's in, but can't talk about new test results or it's a mistrial.

so... then no reason to talk to him again?
Posted by TitleistProV1X
Member since Nov 2015
3656 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:54 am to
Judge announces Torbin not allowed to testify regarding carbon monoxide in blood due to late disclosure on lab tests. Can be recalled to discuss other things though
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 9:56 am
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
7172 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:54 am to
If Blackwell is asking the questions, that dumbass will likely lead the witness into it and frick it up. This dude doesn't seem real sharp
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478715 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:55 am to
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then no reason to talk to him again?


they're going to likely present testimony that the carbon monoxide levels was due to environmental factors
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