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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:14 pm to
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no injury to brain... whether it be from blunt force trauma or trauma from lack of oxygen



There has to be a brain to injure.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:16 pm to
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Did this guy just say he didn't do toxicology on the stomach contents? He just saw some bread fragments,case closed?



Gastric contents aren’t typically tested unless perhaps you want to prove an intentional overdose by quantifying a large amount of swallowed pills. If the presence of a drug is significant, it’ll be in the blood sample.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 2:16 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:16 pm to
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I never said 90% blockage isn't 'significant', just that its not lethal .I could see how an arse-ignorant cocksucker such as yourself would struggle with reading


The prosecutions witness disagrees with you.

She said if she found Floyd dead in his home with a heart like that she would say he died because of his heart.

So yes, his heart condition could be fatal.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 2:18 pm
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40238 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:18 pm to
But what if you took pills and they hadn’t fully digested yet?? Wouldn’t that be important?
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:19 pm to
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The prosecutions witness disagrees with you.

She said if she found Floyd dead in his home with a heart like that she would say he died because of his heart.

So yes, his heart condition could be fatal.


i mustve missed this part. who said it? because yesterday the witness said the opposite.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:20 pm to
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But what if you took pills and they hadn’t fully digested yet?? Wouldn’t that be important?



undigested pills wouldnt have any physiologic effect.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:21 pm to
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i mustve missed this part. who said it? because yesterday the witness said the opposite.


The forensic pathologist from this morning

That was a pretty aggressive response by you after not even watching the trial this morning.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 2:23 pm
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23013 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:22 pm to
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i mustve missed this part. who said it? because yesterday the witness said the opposite.


The female forensic pathologist who testified today.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15918 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:23 pm to
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mustve missed this part. who


You've missed alot or you just ignore facts that hurt your agenda.
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
9946 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:24 pm to
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undigested pills


Its my understanding he wasn't swallowing the pills
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14105 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:24 pm to
Just tuned in about 10 minutes ago, but that didn't go well for the prosecution.
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35436 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:24 pm to
I'd beg to differ. The fentanyl is the direct reason for the neck restraint.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147222 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:24 pm to
here comes cross
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:24 pm to
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But what if you took pills and they hadn’t fully digested yet?? Wouldn’t that be important?



If you wanted to prove those pills were recently ingested, you could test.

But for these drugs to have an effect, they would need to be in the bloodstream, which was already tested.

I suppose the defense could be interested in what was in the gastric contents in this case to demonstrate that he had recently ingested fentanyl, but I guess they didn’t attempt to have testing performed.

Either way, he had 11ng of fentanyl in his bloodstream.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15918 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:25 pm to
Again the prosecution questioning doesn't seem to have any clear cut direction and didn't even tie it up at the end.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23013 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:25 pm to
So the heart disease and drugs contributed to Floyd's death but weren't the direct cause. Was Chauvin supposed to know Floyd had swallowed a bunch of fentanyl or had an underlying heart condition? If Floyd didn't have those issues would he have died with Chauvin making the exact same actions?
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23013 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:26 pm to
I can't believe how short that direct questioning was and it ended so abruptly after saying that the drugs and heart issue contributed. Seems like an oof from the State.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147222 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:27 pm to
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Again the prosecution questioning doesn't seem to have any clear cut direction and didn't even tie it up at the end.

he basically got the ME to reiterate what's on the report we've all seen already... that he believed neck restraint was the main cause of death
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15918 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:27 pm to
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Floyd didn't have those issues would he have died with Chauvin making the exact same actions?


Absolutely not.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15073 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:27 pm to
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Its my understanding he wasn't swallowing the pills


He butt chugged them. Vol fan?
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