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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:58 pm to
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:58 pm to
All this doc's anatomy lingo is going over the jury's head whether that's intended or not.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109453 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:58 pm to
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His report..
Is key...

The first and most fresh...


Always best to get to them before they decompose.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6968 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:59 pm to
Dude took a thousand pics of every part of the body but not the heart, lol
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56575 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:59 pm to
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Always best to get to them before they decompose.


correct that's why I am wondering about the timing of the 3 other autopsy medical exam reports that were done after this one
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15073 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:01 pm to
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All this doc's anatomy lingo is going over the jury's head whether that's intended or not.

Yep, and under cross, Nelson will skip past the medical terminology that doesn't help, and have him explain in lay terms, the stuff that helps the defense.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:01 pm to
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Dude took a thousand pics of every part of the body but not the heart, lol


It looks like a heart, but is maybe 10-20% larger.

The weight is the important measurement. There are no set of dimensions for a normal heart. There are dimensions for the wall thicknesses. I can’t remember if he put them in his report.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 2:03 pm
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:02 pm to
He looks like Simon Cowell Kent.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15073 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:04 pm to
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t looks like a heart, but is maybe 10-20% larger.

The weight is the important measurement. There are no set of dimensions for a normal heart.

He seems extremely intelligent. I'm sure the female who testified before lunch, is also very intelligent, but this guy comes off as much smarter. He does not hesitate with his answers, at all.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147222 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:04 pm to
no injury to brain... whether it be from blunt force trauma or trauma from lack of oxygen
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6538 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:04 pm to
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Yep, and under cross, Nelson will skip past the medical terminology that doesn't help, and have him explain in lay terms, the stuff that helps the defense.


I'm more surprised prosecution isn't telling him to dumb it down. Doctor is conversing like he given a presentation to a crowd of doctors.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:05 pm to
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He seems extremely intelligent. I'm sure the female who testified before lunch, is also very intelligent, but this guy comes off as much smarter. He does not hesitate with his answers, at all.

he did the direct autopsy... he better have all the answers
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15073 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:06 pm to
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'm more surprised prosecution isn't telling him to dumb it down. Doctor is conversing like he given a presentation to a crowd of doctors.


In case you haven't noticed, the prosecution attorneys aren't very impressive. None of them.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147222 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:07 pm to
talking now about pulmonary emboli... truly 1 of the scariest things ever

ETA: just to point out that GF didn't die to an embolism
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 2:07 pm
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:09 pm to
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there was not a lethal level of coronary vessel obstruction
From the ME's report:
quote:
90% proximal narrowing of the right coronary artery
Seems significant, I think.


you were trying to refute the statement that 'there was not a lethal obstruction of the vessels' by saying 90% blockage seemed signficiant, probably to suggest you believed it could be fatal.


quote:


I never said it was a heart attack, but I could see how an arse-ignorant cocksucker such as yourself would struggle with reading.

So according to you, 90% blockage in an artery is not significant?

I never said 90% blockage isn't 'significant', just that its not lethal .I could see how an arse-ignorant cocksucker such as yourself would struggle with reading.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147222 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:09 pm to
some objection from the defense sustained

was asking about the ME's relationship with the toxicologist
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46357 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:10 pm to
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In case you haven't noticed, the prosecution attorneys aren't very impressive. None of them.


This is the case for most state prosecution offices. They're the ones that didn't have the chops to be hired by the big boys in corporate law or had the drive to strike out on their own.

Granted you'll find a crusader every now and then doing the job for the right thing, or someone looking to climb the political ladder, but by and large prosecutors are the bottom of the legal barrel. Not quite eDiscovery contract workers, but near the bottom.



Posted by SouthernChick
Member since Jun 2013
406 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:12 pm to
Did this guy just say he didn't do toxicology on the stomach contents? He just saw some bread fragments,case closed?
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15073 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:12 pm to
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Did this guy just say he didn't do toxicology on the stomach contents? He just saw some bread fragments,case closed?


Yep.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56575 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:13 pm to
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Did this guy just say he didn't do toxicology on the stomach contents? He just saw some bread fragments,case closed?



Yep
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:13 pm to
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How do you know the level of force applied to the neck was constant throughout or that compression of the carotid arteries is an all or nothing proposition?


Because I know that any amount of pressure significant enough to compress the airway for long enough to result in hypoxia would cause compression of the carotid arteries well before any symptoms from hypoxia.

That would be hard to dispute. Even the prosecution witness says 10 seconds at most.

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