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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:34 pm to
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:34 pm to
Here we go, the ME is up.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:37 pm to
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My question was how did his carotid arteries not compress first, thus rendering him unconscious within the first 10 seconds of the restraint.



How do you know the level of force applied to the neck was constant throughout or that compression of the carotid arteries is an all or nothing proposition?
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:37 pm to
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Does anyone know if the question has been asked by the defense to other witnesses about how we are able to speak? Specifically how was George Floyd able to speak, while pinned down, if he was unable to move air in and out of his lungs. The mechanism for speaking involves moving air over the vocal chords.


because you are relying on a misleading rule of thumb. its possible to move some air but not enough air. your arguement also breaks down heavily when you consider the fact there was several minutes of not being able to speak.

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Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15073 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:37 pm to
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He was responding to my argument with another poster last night.

Someone said that Floyd died because his hypopharynx was compressed from both sides of the neck. The hypopharynx contains a bone and cartilage structures and would take a lot of force to compress.

My question was how did his carotid arteries not compress first, thus rendering him unconscious within the first 10 seconds of the restraint.

I never got an answer.
Exactly!

You can't have it both ways. That's why they are moving to being placed in the prone position. Remember when all we heard was, the knee to the neck killed GF. Now, it's because he was on his stomach and being held down. If I can see these crawfishing arguments sitting in my living room, surely a few of jurors, one being a nurse, can see thru this bs.
Posted by Kay
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:38 pm to
I tuned in just in time to see the lady say she knew cause of death from a video. Wowza.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15073 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:40 pm to
This guy talks extremely fast!
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:42 pm to
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He should have said, if the prone position is unsafe, why are we putting people with a respiratory virus on their stomach


because its a referene to with restraints, your arms behind your back handcuffed is not helpful
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:43 pm to
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This guy talks extremely fast!


He has a tee time at 3PM
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:43 pm to
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because its a referene to with restraints, your arms behind your back handcuffed is not helpful


Because he was being arrested...he resisted for many minutes, thus the restraint
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 1:47 pm
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56575 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:45 pm to
So this doctor is who did the original autopsy...

Made his conclusions before seeing police videos
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:45 pm to
Chauvin is going to be acquitted and I can’t wait.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:45 pm to
So is this medical examiner on defense or prosecution side?
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:45 pm to
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He has a tee time at 3PM

He ain’t gonna make it!!
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:46 pm to
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So is this medical examiner on defense or prosecution side?


He’s on the side of truth, justice, and the American way.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:47 pm to
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So this doctor is who did the original autopsy...

Made his conclusions before seeing police videos


Negative. He performed the autopsy before seeing police videos.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
32150 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:47 pm to
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because its a referene to with restraints, your arms behind your back handcuffed is not helpful
At minimum resisting arrest and failure to cooperate results in cuffs and hands behind back.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:47 pm to
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Here's the crux of today's testimony so far. If GF was found dead at home, they would rule it an OD. But since he wasn't, it has to be homicide. She said that police restraint was the ultimate cause. Here's my question, and I hope the jurors are thinking this also: If everything happened, as it did, but GF had not taken drugs, would he have died?


hypothetically....
if your grandpa was for a fact going to die at home sometime soon, and you were caught holding a pillow over his head at the time he died... Do you think you won't get charged for some type of homicide?
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 1:57 pm
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56575 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:48 pm to
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Negative. He performed the autopsy before seeing police videos.


Pretty sure I said the same thing
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:50 pm to
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Made his conclusions before seeing police videos


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Negative. He performed the autopsy before seeing police videos.


quote:

Pretty sure I said the same thing


Explain how those are the same thing.
Posted by PurpleFin
Member since Apr 2017
91 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:51 pm to
How are they not?
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