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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:44 pm to
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15915 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:44 pm to
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isn’t given blanket immunity he would plead the fifth all day


I just don't see the judge letting them seat him if all he is going to do is plead the 5th.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:44 pm to
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MS, while the state did have their the best day of the trial so far, so they still failed to meet the burden for any of the crimes Chauvin is being accused of.

1 decent day out of 8 is not good.

Remember not 1 defense witness has been called yet. -- well besides the 1 that Nelson flipped during cross.




unintentional homicide criteria has been met.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:45 pm to
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I missed that part of the case, but what is the front of the neck against?


the front of the neck isn’t against anything. That’s the point. You can’t compress the hypopharynx from the back of the neck. The spine is in the way.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
32212 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:46 pm to
It would appear to be so easy for the jury, who has heard reams of pretty damning testimony and seen as much lurid videos, to just go ahead and convict, even on the least of the 3 charges. It would save a dozen or so major cities from being burned to the ground.
Posted by Wiseguy
Member since Mar 2020
4073 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:46 pm to
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The proper term is "amateur personal pharmacist"


I think you mean “non-licensed” instead of amateur. I’m sure he’s a professional.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:48 pm to
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because in the case of fentanyl or opioids which suppress respiratory centers, you are not aware you are not breathing. Floyd was well aware. its apples to oranges.


What?

George Floyd was aware he wasn’t breathing? Are you talking about him saying he couldn’t breathe? If so, then why was he saying he couldn’t breathe before he was even on the ground.

Basing your evidence on something Floyd said isn’t evidence. We have proof he told multiple lies on the body cams. He said he didn’t even take any drugs.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:50 pm to
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the front of the neck isn’t against anything.


So it was continuously moving forward in space due to pressure being placed on the back of the neck?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144023 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:51 pm to
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unintentional homicide criteria has been met.


I must have missed that part.

If this jury is an honest one and had to vote today, I don't think Chauvin would be found guilty of anything. There is still way more than "reasonable doubt".
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15915 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:52 pm to
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because in the case of fentanyl or opioids which suppress respiratory centers, you are not aware you are not breathing.


That's absolutely not true. Well if the person was unconscious then they wouldn't know but not awake.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 5:53 pm
Posted by LSUGent
Member since Jun 2011
3278 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:53 pm to
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I just don't see the judge letting them seat him if all he is going to do is plead the 5th.


There is a very narrow scope that he may be called to testify about. In a very limited capacity and the judge was requesting the defense and prosecution submit questions for potential approval. But because of how narrow the scope is I don’t think his testimony would amount to a whole lot.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64404 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:54 pm to
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even on the least of the 3 charges.



Which 3 charges?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:54 pm to
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So it was continuously moving forward in space due to pressure being placed on the back of the neck?


No his chest and face where holding the load.

You think 90 lbs of force was on the front of his neck but didn’t leave a single sign of trauma to his trachea?
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:54 pm to
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That’s rich. You can’t explain basic anatomy questions yet you know this experts testimony is accurate.

You are agreeing with the expert because he comes to the conclusion you want.

I’m disagreeing with the expert because of factual knowledge I know to be true and can actually explain.



no I can full well explain the anatomy, just no point when mouthbreathers will parrot the incorrect narrative of muh overdose and ignore the post anyway.
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Chauvin's knee moved farther toward the side of Floyd's neck, compressing his hypopharynx


for you anyway I will provide actual context of the testimony to point out your lie that it was the back of the neck. As the knee moved to the side of the neck it compressed the hypopharynx, which you should know is possible since you know basic anatomy right?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144023 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:55 pm to
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who has heard reams of pretty damning testimony and seen as much lurid videos


what "reams"? just about every witness has contradicted their testimony during cross.

Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:55 pm to
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the front of the neck isn’t against anything. That’s the point. You can’t compress the hypopharynx from the back of the neck. The spine is in the way.



except that was not the testimony. he mentioned the SIDE of the neck
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:55 pm to
I find it funny how these "expert" witnesses are so cocky and self-assured while introducing themselves and giving testimony to the prosecution.

I am now waiting for one of them to just break down and start crying when Nelson is getting out of his chair to cross. Their voices, demeaner, ability to hear, probably their ability to see and physical posture all change.

Eric strikes real fear into these fools.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46352 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:56 pm to
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unintentional homicide criteria has been met.


That's because you assume the defendant is guilty until proven innocent.

Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15915 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:57 pm to
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would appear to be so easy for the jury, who has heard reams of pretty damning testimony and seen as much lurid videos, to just go ahead and convict, even on the least of the 3 charges. It would


Only a dumb mofo makes a absolute decision based off of 1/2 the facts well that and a communist that doesn't believe in American rights.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:57 pm to
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That's because you assume the defendant is guilty until proven innocent.



no ma'am its because I understand the evidence found in the autopsy and have seen the videos.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46352 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:57 pm to
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Only a dumb mofo makes a absolute decision based off of 1/2 the facts well that and a communist that doesn't believe in American rights.



It's tarzana. That dumb bitch gets beclowned on this forum on a regular basis, yet keeps coming back for more.

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