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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:20 am to WaWaWeeWa
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:20 am to WaWaWeeWa
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I don’t completely disagree with you, but hindsight is effecting your views
If I showed you a variation of the Floyd video where the cop quickly gets off his back, Floyd escapes and murders the cop... you would say he should have stayed on Floyd’s back longer
If I showed you a variation where Floyd goes unconscious but wakes up shortly after and survives you would likely not have an issue.
It’s only after you know the final outcome that you look at chauvins actions the way you do. And everyone knew the outcome before they watched the video.
He followed police protocol for restraining someone resisting arrest high on meth and fentanyl. Was it stretching the protocol? Yes. But there is no clear violation.
When I was stationed in Guantanamo Bay, I expeirenced something similar.
I was pulling duty one night and we got a call from security, of an unresponsive person at the docks. Drove the rig down there, and 6 security personnel were there waiting. Middle-aged contractor lying supine on the tarmac. Me and my partner did a quick assessment, pulse confirmed and breathing, with no apparent injury. My partner went back to the rig to call in report to the ER and await instructions. The guy started mumbling something, so I leaned in to better understand what he was saying. When I did, he took a big swing at my head. I dodged the punch, and immediately the 6 security guys were on him like white on rice. Flipped him over on his belly, controlled his legs and arms, and get this.........a knee was applied to upper back/neck area. As this happened, I hear the doc at the ER giving orders over the ambulance speaker. C-spine precautions,,yada yada. I had to laugh as I heard that with my ears, and my eyes are see 6 grown men on top of the guy with a knee to the neck.
I say all that, to say this. You just don't know when the switch is going to get flipped and a person intoxicated on something and totally benign, suddenly becomes violent.
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Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:20 am to TK421
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course not. At the very least, Chauvin showed a reckless disregard for his life.
The police had just tangled with a 6'5" 250lb man that was in a drug induced craze then add in civilians started to surround you. He kept him secured and by the time he was limp the cop cam clearly showed Chauvin's knee on the back not neck plus they had called for medical help not once but twice. That is the complete opposite of reckless disregard. You have bought into the media narrative pretty bad. You need to totally forget what you have been told and go back to the opening comnents and start over.
The 2 drug dealers in the car with Floyd ( one who refuses to testify because he knows Chauvin will walk and he will get charged for murder for providing the drugs) have told investigators that Floyd took 2 pills ( 2 others were found in car) and the lab will testify that the pills had both meth and fentanyl in them. They also said he passed out and they were having issues waking him. Why are you ignoring all of that and more???
This post was edited on 4/2/21 at 9:21 am
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:21 am to IT_Dawg
He died of a fentanyl overdose.
The cops never abused him, never hit him, and Chauvin followed what was taught.
Anything else is not the truth.
The cops never abused him, never hit him, and Chauvin followed what was taught.
Anything else is not the truth.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:22 am to SOSFAN
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plus they had called for medical help not once but twice.
Didn't one of the EMTs or the dispatcher that took the stand earlier this week testify that EMS was hindered in getting on scene in a timely manner due to the crowd?
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:24 am to IAmNERD
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Didn't one of the EMTs or the dispatcher that took the stand earlier this week testify that EMS was hindered in getting on scene in a timely manner due to the crowd?
No. He stated that sometimes they “stage” or wait until the scene is secured. They didn’t do that here. But they did transport Floyd a few blocks away before trying to treat him because of the crowd. I doubt it would have mattered anyway because he didn’t have a pulse when they arrived.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:24 am to kengel2
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Exactly, a dude high as frick could easily fight with 3 or
The video shows a huge, high as frick, man fighting and getting his way against 3 grown men. Wonder why some posters are totally ignoring that.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:25 am to SOSFAN
Your argument basically boils down to Chauvin is a huge pussy and Floyd deserved to die anyway.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:25 am to IAmNERD
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earlier this week testify that EMS was hindered in getting on scene in a timely manner due to the crowd?
He did testify that they had to pull off due to the crowd and fear.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:26 am to WaWaWeeWa
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They didn’t do that here. But they did transport Floyd a few blocks away before trying to treat him because of the crowd
Gotcha. Thanks.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:28 am to WaWaWeeWa
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Is this true? Never heard that before. They checked his pulse and didn’t find one and continued to restrain him?
Yes. First the officer in back does and says he can’t feel one. Later Chauvin attempts. He was moving seconds before that. It isn’t like he laid there for minutes unresponsive. It was maybe a minute total..with medical in eye site.
Should they have uncuffed him at that point and rolled him over to start CPR? Or wait on medical to come over? Both pulse efforts were on wrist not neck in the heat of action. I am sure they have some training on this. Reminder medical wasn’t comfortable and wanted him out of there to start proper resuscitation efforts once they got to him.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:29 am to TK421
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Your argument basically boils down to Chauvin is a huge pussy and Floyd deserved to die anyway.
You do realize that when we see people make a post like this that it tells us you have zero content to further continue a debate and all you have left is childesh immature comments left in the tank.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:29 am to IAmNERD
Prosecution’s witness said George was foaming at the mouth and in the car with his drug dealers. The video of his action speaks for itself.
There’s your reasonable doubt
This case is a waste of tax payer dollars
I hope Chauvin sues the frick out of the city
There’s your reasonable doubt
This case is a waste of tax payer dollars
I hope Chauvin sues the frick out of the city
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:32 am to dgnx6
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The cops never abused him, never hit him, and Chauvin followed what was taught. Anything else is not the truth.
Correct.
Nothing even close to over violent or abusive happened from anybody but Floyd which is how ended up on ground restrained. Imagine the balls of watching those videos and implying there was some racist intent to kill that man.
This post was edited on 4/2/21 at 9:33 am
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:32 am to arseinclarse
I wonder why this guy on the stand is currently on leave from his police job.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:33 am to MFn GIMP
This is the first witness I’ve seen in this trial so far who knows to direct his answers towards the jury.
This post was edited on 4/2/21 at 9:34 am
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:34 am to arseinclarse
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There’s your reasonable doubt
This case is guilty until proven innocent. Reasonable doubt works the other way. If there’s a chance he could be guilty he is.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:34 am to TK421
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Your argument basically boils down to Chauvin is a huge pussy and Floyd deserved to die anyway.
What an incredible fact-based description of what happened. You have swayed me to your side sir.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:35 am to IAmNERD
quote:The first one said they did a "load and go". Basically, get the patient on the rig, drive to a safer location to render aid. That tells you a lot, right there.
Didn't one of the EMTs or the dispatcher that took the stand earlier this week testify that EMS was hindered in getting on scene in a timely manner due to the crowd?
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:37 am to Yellerhammer5
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This is the first witness I’ve seen in this trial so far who knows to direct his answers towards the jury.
You can tell he has testified numerous times in the past.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:38 am to Yellerhammer5
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it’s not ruled a homciide,why doesn’t it list another manner on there? Natural, accident, suicide, or undetermined?
The me said he had fatal levels of fentanyl and if found in his home would be ruled an overdose.
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