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re: Derek Chauvin - Floyd cop will end up being not guilty

Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:05 pm to
Posted by carguymatt
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Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:05 pm to
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I find some of their physics interesting, especially the assumption all of weight was evenly distributed between two knees, and their ignoring the weight of gear on him, and how they figured out the physical force in lbs threshold for asphyxiation. Looking at the photos I have a hard time believing the forces on the knees are equal.

I could easily see that force being much higher than 45 pounds.


The weight of the gear had little if nothing to do with it. Look how the foot of Chauvin's same leg that's on Floyd appears to be in an adjustable position compared to his other foot. He's probably got at least 75% of his weight on his other side balanced by his toe being perpendicular to the ground. Look how Floyd is in a bench press type position with his right arm trying to get up.

Also interesting to note even though officers outnumbered Floyd I've read most of those officers were new to the force and Chauvin was training them. Floyd appears to me to be a lot bigger and stronger than Chauvin. Or, any of them for that matter.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:05 pm to
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Let’s be clear: the actions of Chauvin and the other officers were absolutely wrong."


What not this part first?
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:06 pm to
He will be found guilty of a lesser offense.
Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:15 pm to
Thread wouldn't be 4 pages if people like you didn't read article
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:24 pm to
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Derek Chauvin - Floyd cop will end up being not guilty


Absolutely the frick not

Dude is going down hard and he deserves it
Posted by LSUFAITHFUL
Member since Oct 2007
1089 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:25 pm to
Okay, you have me on all of this as being possible and that we should wait for all the facts on whether what he did was procedure, correct pressure, excited delerium, etc. All that works as a possible defense....UNTIL you lose me. And that’s when the guy loses consciousness and he stays on his neck for 3 more minutes (or whatever it was), refuses to get off and render aid. At that point, his actions are indefensible. At that point it becomes murder.
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 10:26 pm
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25699 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:31 pm to
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Which is the exact reason he won't be.


They overcharged him. Never gonna stick, and they knew it when they charged him. They want civil unrest.
Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
2166 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:40 pm to
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UNTIL you lose me. And that’s when the guy loses consciousness and he stays on his neck for 3 more minutes (or whatever it was), refuses to get off and render aid. At that point, his actions are indefensible. At that point it becomes murder.


I'm not some activist picking sides..I thought murder too..however, his pulse was checked by cops on film and I think he was alive in the ambulance..my point is on the lead up..if this ExDs thing is real..as doc in thread says is, then guy is getting off
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:43 pm to
this has mistrial written all over it
Posted by moester75
Anne Arundel County, MD
Member since Oct 2018
1544 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:56 pm to
I haven’t read through this entire thread but I’m sure it’s probably been pointed out that the jury will be at least 8 out of 12 Black Atlantans. The four non Black jurors will be made up of either white or Latino women. Those cops are in deep dung. No less than manslaughter 1 is coming.
Posted by LSUFAITHFUL
Member since Oct 2007
1089 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 12:16 am to
Atlantans won’t be serving on a jury in Minneapolis.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 12:26 am to
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Posted by Big EZ Tiger
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 12:27 am to
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Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18310 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 12:29 am to
It will never go to trial because they won’t be able to find a jury that hasn’t heard of it
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 1:00 am to
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never heard of Medium before


LOL
Posted by MMauler
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 5:46 am to
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It all depends on what charges the DA/Judge allows the jury to consider.


Wrong. It will all depend upon the jurisdiction he’s tried in and the racial composition of the jury. Chauvin will ask for and will receive a change of venue. Where he’s tried will make all the difference in the world.

The only difference between Chauvin and OJ is that once OJ got venue removed to Los Angeles and got one black person on his jury, he was scot-free. The whole trial was just a clown show starring Johnny Cochran. Even if Chauvin gets 12 white people on his jury, he may still go down because these people will realize the riots that will ensue if he’s let off.
Posted by moester75
Anne Arundel County, MD
Member since Oct 2018
1544 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:49 am to
Thread Bump to answer a post.
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Atlantans won’t be serving on a jury in Minneapolis.


Yea my bad I got the two cases confused between Atlanta and Minneapolis. With so many different cases of unarmed Black Americans being killed by police its hard to keep up with which one is which. Thank you for being nice about correcting me and not being cruel.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
22576 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:58 am to
He’s guilty please stop
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
3432 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:14 am to
Great read. Lets see if I got this right.

He didn’t do anything wrong.
He didn’t do anything wrong.
He didn’t do anything wrong.
He didn’t do anything wrong.
He didn’t do anything wrong.
He didn’t do anything wrong.

In summation, he absolutely did something wrong.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29646 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:19 am to
Thanks for taking the time to understand an article that takes <5 minutes to read!
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